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The last unconquered sector of the web

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Re: The last unconquered sector of the web

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But small businesses are still behind. Way behind. See http://buddingtonsphoto.com/ as an example. What a great way to acquire new customers. Post the worst websites you can find on Hacker News, bombarding them with hits and laughter, and embarrassing them into upgrading. (I'd call them and ask why they haven't engaged Seeing Interactive, but I just don't have the heart.)

I think it's more about mediocre sites, if the site is just bad enough, that seems to generate a lot of traffic, too. You'll get mentioned in social media sites, and apparently enough people who come to gawk order something. yvettesbridalformal.com is allegedly doing quite well.

There's probably a business idea in there, too. But at what price?

Re: The last unconquered sector of the web

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Strange that I've seen no-one actually side with the small businesses here.

It's true: small business are lagging behind in web presence, though it's mostly our fault.

When such business took a sneak-peak in the web, 10 years ago, there was actually no strong reason to be on the web. The people behind the business themselves didn't use the web as a resource-for-everything as we see it today. They considered (and rightly so) a web presence just as a business facade.

Moreover, that presence cost them a fortune, for mostly what today we consider as a flash nightmare.

I'm sure that now people realize what they would like to see in their website, because that's the way they expect websites to be: an actual, useful service for the people that come to their business.

That means more money to be spent however, and if you want a nice, decently done website, probably with some sort of customized service behind it, and considering eventual maintenance costs, it probably means spending the same amount you spent 10 years ago, plus a yearly figure which is certainly larger that what you're spending now.

Of course, it also means expanding your business on the web, for the first time, really. I think that many people realize that, and with time (read: money) they will move on. I don't buy the fact that people don't know what web means anymore.

However, I'm quite confident that whatever new website they're building now, it will require a complete re-do in another 5 years time due to changing trends and technologies (which in customer's minds reads as "no real reason"). And that's exactly the reason I agree with them. You really need to have a strong business return in exchange for such a waste of time an money.

Re: The last unconquered sector of the web

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Absolutely, I see this all over. So many people want a web site, but they have absolutely no idea what to do. So many small businesses have websites, but they're very poor quality. Many have sites from about 2004 which are in serious need of updating. And, there's still a lot of businesses who think they don't need a website or it wouldn't be useful, and they'll be changing their minds within the next 5 years.

Re: The last unconquered sector of the web

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We are doing something very similar for apartments websites. My assumptions where exactly the same but after two months it turned out the the easy sales were those made with the advanced business owners, not the ones who never really wanted to be on the Internet. The tech savy ones saw immediately the wisdom of a dedicated website builder compared to the great but too general wordpress or joomla. The others were stil…

Other (small) changes I'd make: 1. Don't say "sign up" -- say something like "Join free." In any case say something that indicates value to the consumer vs. signing up, which indicates value to the site owner. 2. For the signup button use a color that contrasts more strongly with the rest of the design, e.g., red or green (vs. blue) 3. Don't redirect me to another, context-free page when I click the signup button 4.…

This is great stuff. We should start a former-YC-company consulting arm :)

Re: The last unconquered sector of the web

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To be fair, I think it's only in the last couple of years that there's been a sea-change in the quality of web aesthetics. Before that, hardly any websites looked 'good.' They were either decent, or ugly. Nowadays I see a lot of genuinely beautiful sites, but lots of people are still catching up.

Re: The last unconquered sector of the web

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There are a lot of small businesses out there that don't need to accept any payment on the site or offer phone support, they just need an easy to update, modern looking site that gives a good impression of their business.

'Local' businesses will often have their websites checked out by customers who have heard of them through word of mouth or other Real Life means. They google the name of the business to understand the service provided and to help them decide whether or not they want to give them their money. They will then physically go down there. That's often what 'local' means. In this situation simply having a simple, modern-looking, easy to use site with fast load times will create a vastly better impression on prospective customers. Better than 1998's leftovers currently do for a lot of these businesses anyway. If a business doesn't have a web site at all, customers basically don't really believe it exists in this day and age.

Wrap this up in a CMS that automatically pushes new content to twitter and facebook, does good SEO and has a mobile skin and you're on to a winner. Well, it'll pay the bills anyway.

This is essentially low hanging fruit, and modern development and deployment tools make it all the easier to pick.

Re: The last unconquered sector of the web

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"They took their hard earned money and opened a pizza parlor or a garage or a gift shop. They never really wanted to be on the Internet." There it is. That will be right up there with "They never wanted to be an accountant" and "They never wanted to be a marketer" and all the rest.

Of course, that isn't considered a valid excuse if they engage in subpar accounting or marketing practices, so why should it be acceptable in this case?

Re: The last unconquered sector of the web

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How did this even get on the front page of HN?

It doesn`t convey anything useful and is a blantant promotion for themselves. I `don`t mind blantant promotions as long as there is something valuable for me to look at while I`m there.

All they ramble on about is an untapped small business market. Hmm, or maybe businesses that are becoming obsolete because they can`t keep up with the rapid change in the business world.

The final frontier, I think not. How about a dying set of businesses making way for the new small businesses that are changing with the times.

Re: The last unconquered sector of the web

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In the UK, A few companies like Google and BT have come together to solve this problem. http://www.gbbo.co.uk/ They offer a free service (until 2011) for businesses to create their own websites managed by Google Sites, integrating with Google maps, places, etc.

I think in future Facebook pages will also play an important role in getting small businesses online.

Re: The last unconquered sector of the web

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We are doing something very similar for apartments websites. My assumptions where exactly the same but after two months it turned out the the easy sales were those made with the advanced business owners, not the ones who never really wanted to be on the Internet. The tech savy ones saw immediately the wisdom of a dedicated website builder compared to the great but too general wordpress or joomla. The others were stil…

Luca,

On your About page (http://www.adormo.com/project/en/aboutus.htm) you have a spelling mistake. "Wordlwide" should read "Worldwide".

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