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Re: Ask HN: I built a site that just went ridiculously viral. What do I do now?

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yeah, "profitable". Let's say at break even. And yet somehow they needed 200 more million, for a total of 360 million sunk into that ship. Do you have a clue of how profitable a company in which 360 million dollars were invested needs to be? Do you really see them ever getting even close to being that profitable? How?

Having worked from Twitter's office in late 2009, I'm privy to a bit of their financials from that time and onward. They're definitely profitable since then. Profitable companies often raise money... I don't see why this is out of the ordinary. It lets you scale and make more money more quickly. Another startup I worked for did the exact same thing as soon as they became profitable.

yeah, sure, for example, they could sell data about their tweets to search engines other than Google and Bing. Oh, wait, too bad there are none - or not in the parts of the world where people use Twitter, anyway.

so, yes, 200 million on top of 160 million already invested for a company that is making 10 or 20 million at most and that has no other way of making money in sight is, well, yes, I would dare say quite out of the ordinary.

Re: Ask HN: I built a site that just went ridiculously viral. What do I do now?

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how much money do you think they can make with that?

I don't really want to offer my random guess against your random guess of "not much money". Why not wait and see? What vested interest do you have in seeing Twitter fail? I hope Twitter makes a lot of money and lasts for a long long time. It will be good for the world.

I have no vetted interest in seeing Twitter fail, nor do I think it will. I think Google and Bing will keep it afloat for a long time until they figure out how - or if - they are really interested in the so-called "real-time web".

Re: Ask HN: I built a site that just went ridiculously viral. What do I do now?

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FYI: Heroku is fantastic for scaling apps. But if it's your database that's the bottleneck...you've got problems. Because your options with SQL are scaling up or sharding, each quite painful. If you want any advice, ping me.

Perhaps rewriting the database to use MongoDB? Their http://www.mongodb.org/ tutorial took about 10 minutes and is really easy to get to know. As a DB they say it's designed for SPEED and SCALE. It might be worth looking at. (who's got the time right?) :)

Alternatively, I've gotten a lot of mileage out of using redis as a cache to selectively optimize data piece by piece.

Re: Ask HN: I built a site that just went ridiculously viral. What do I do now?

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Having worked from Twitter's office in late 2009, I'm privy to a bit of their financials from that time and onward. They're definitely profitable since then. Profitable companies often raise money... I don't see why this is out of the ordinary. It lets you scale and make more money more quickly. Another startup I worked for did the exact same thing as soon as they became profitable.

yeah, sure, for example, they could sell data about their tweets to search engines other than Google and Bing. Oh, wait, too bad there are none - or not in the parts of the world where people use Twitter, anyway. so, yes, 200 million on top of 160 million already invested for a company that is making 10 or 20 million at most and that has no other way of making money in sight is, well, yes, I would dare say quite out…

all right, guys, group-think wins, I lose. Have a nice day!

Re: Ask HN: I built a site that just went ridiculously viral. What do I do now?

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make fun of twitter, and you get down-voted. I know, I know, Google will buy them for 4 billion in 2011, but that is the only exit strategy they have. No biz model there, sorry.

Have you seen this? - http://business.twitter.com/

A subdomain isn't a business model.

Re: Ask HN: I built a site that just went ridiculously viral. What do I do now?

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Oooh, hey this is bad. If you go to http://threewords.me/username.xml you can see the user's Facebook access token, secret, session key, and hashed password. You should probably remove that view or modify the to_xml in the user model.

It's fixed now.

Re: Ask HN: I built a site that just went ridiculously viral. What do I do now?

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You could be cool as Clojure, though: https://github.com/gcv/appengine-magic

Whats the start-up time? i.e. when google spins up a new instance to handle traffic, how quickly can it come up?

In the free configuration, I've clocked it between 4 and 6 seconds. (Sometimes up to 10 seconds, but not recently.) With the 1.4.0 release of the App Engine SDK, the cold start time has become less important, though. First, you can pay $9/month to have three instances running all the time. Second, App Engine can send a "warmup" request to your application.

Re: Ask HN: I built a site that just went ridiculously viral. What do I do now?

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Having worked from Twitter's office in late 2009, I'm privy to a bit of their financials from that time and onward. They're definitely profitable since then. Profitable companies often raise money... I don't see why this is out of the ordinary. It lets you scale and make more money more quickly. Another startup I worked for did the exact same thing as soon as they became profitable.

yeah, sure, for example, they could sell data about their tweets to search engines other than Google and Bing. Oh, wait, too bad there are none - or not in the parts of the world where people use Twitter, anyway. so, yes, 200 million on top of 160 million already invested for a company that is making 10 or 20 million at most and that has no other way of making money in sight is, well, yes, I would dare say quite out…

Where are you getting this 10-20mm number? That wasn't even accurate (it's too low) a year ago.

The value of the deal with Google alone was 30mm. That's just a single facet of their monetisation strategies. They've also introduced Sponsored Tweets and a bunch of other things since then.

Fun fact: Twitter actually violated their SLA with Google and Bing before the first month was even up. They guaranteed a maximum amount of time between a tweet being published and it being available via the commercial API access given to Google/Bing.

FYI, I am not downvoting you. I can't even downvote yet. I don't even like Twitter and think it's mostly a waste of time.

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