Anyone have a less sensationalist primary source link? I'd like to see backed up facts, not outrage bait.
The UK authorities made illegal copies of the Schengen Information System
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Re: The UK authorities made illegal copies of the Schengen Information System
#12The title is incorrect. The Schengen Information System does not keep data for "all EU citizens", it only keeps such data for wanted persons, missing/stolen identity documents or objects (like cars, boats and so on). There is no centralized database for EU citizens photos or fingerprints (not even at national level in many countries).
>There is no centralized database for EU citizens photos or fingerprints (not even at national level in many countries).
"The database will aggregate the details of more than 350 million people, including their identifying information, such as names, passport number, dates of birth, as well as biometrics like fingerprints and facial scans."
https://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/news/3074472/eu-parliament-v...
Re: The UK authorities made illegal copies of the Schengen Information System
#13Meh? If anyone thinks they didn't already have it ..
Agreed, on your second point. But these stories are not “meh” because it reminds us how important it is that the UK leave the EU once and for all
Re: The UK authorities made illegal copies of the Schengen Information System
#14This begs the question if UK/EU got a copy of all the US citizens ' fingerprints in return. It is possible to commit treason against your own country. Can someone commit treason against the EU? Is it a criminal offense?
There isn’t a database of every US citizen’s fingerprints.
Re: The UK authorities made illegal copies of the Schengen Information System
#15This begs the question if UK/EU got a copy of all the US citizens ' fingerprints in return. It is possible to commit treason against your own country. Can someone commit treason against the EU? Is it a criminal offense?
The title is misleading.
The allegation is not that the UK authorities made a copy and gave it directly to the US authorities.
The allegation is that the UK authorities made copies for its own and its contractors use. These contractors include US companies- IBM is one example.
It really sounds like poor regard for security measures / lack of ownership and enforcement in the UK rather than anything malicious.
It is also noted that several other member states have similar issues.
It should also be noted - certain US authorities probably have or can get copies from various non-uk states and the UK. But that isn't what this incident is about.
Re: The UK authorities made illegal copies of the Schengen Information System
#16The title is incorrect. The Schengen Information System does not keep data for "all EU citizens", it only keeps such data for wanted persons, missing/stolen identity documents or objects (like cars, boats and so on). There is no centralized database for EU citizens photos or fingerprints (not even at national level in many countries).
>There is no centralized database for EU citizens photos or fingerprints (not even at national level in many countries). "The database will aggregate the details of more than 350 million people, including their identifying information, such as names, passport number, dates of birth, as well as biometrics like fingerprints and facial scans." https://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/news/3074472/eu-parliament-v...
The link suggests that this was announced in April this year. Do you think all the necessary DBs have already been connected? I would expect it to happen next year earliest.
Re: The UK authorities made illegal copies of the Schengen Information System
#17As a Danish citizen I’m deeply concerned about this and am strongly considering an FoIA request and lawsuit for lack of disclosure... if this is really true.
Re: The UK authorities made illegal copies of the Schengen Information System
#18The give away is (twitter.com) - nothing from that source is even close to true.
Re: The UK authorities made illegal copies of the Schengen Information System
#19Sometimes I can‘t help thinking whether the UK is just the US‘ trojan horse in the EU. Well, things might change quite a bit after October 31st, so hurry up!
as a french, I cant wait for them to be out. They spent the last 50 years trying to sabotage the EU. They want to leave ? Good riddance.
I'm totally with you. I wonder if UK should have left the EU even earlier and saved themselves and us a lot of hassle.
I hope that the EU-friendly states might join again, but I think they would need to break up the UK for that, don't they?
Re: The UK authorities made illegal copies of the Schengen Information System
#20This is a misleading title. The UK government gave access to US companies. There's currently no suggestion that the data moved to the US. More details here: https://euobserver.com/justice/145530
By US law companies are obligated to reveal any data they are ordered to and many times do that illegally also.