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Mozilla debuts implementation of WebThings Gateway open-source router firmware

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Re: Mozilla debuts implementation of WebThings Gateway open-source router firmware

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post #16

What's HN's thoughts on IoT? To me it looks like yet another buzzword from the "wouldn't it be neat?" crowd (the same people who previously gave us a lot of hype about Semantic Web and P2P social networks) but as before none of the applications are actually worth the hassle, this prevents critical mass from ever being reached, and in reality it's mostly just a way for appliance companies who are already overcharging…

IoT is a great success - in industry. At home, from what I can tell, it mostly divides into:

- People who apparently live in warzones and need military-level surveillance of their home

- People who want to feel like they're living in the Star Trek universe

- People with very specific needs, who might take advantage of a commercial IoT device or two in their overall setup

Re: Mozilla debuts implementation of WebThings Gateway open-source router firmware

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It seems to handle a use case I was looking for.

I have a cheap xiaomi aqara hub that is homekit compatible, and I want to exports its data. Sadly usually the use case is to connect a non homekit iot to a homekit server from an apple device with homebridge. Here their HomeKit adapter use a lib called hap-controller-node that seems to be a homekit server. I will have to try this.

https://github.com/mozilla-iot/homekit-adapter/blob/master/p...

https://github.com/mrstegeman/hap-controller-node

Re: Mozilla debuts implementation of WebThings Gateway open-source router firmware

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post #16

What's HN's thoughts on IoT? To me it looks like yet another buzzword from the "wouldn't it be neat?" crowd (the same people who previously gave us a lot of hype about Semantic Web and P2P social networks) but as before none of the applications are actually worth the hassle, this prevents critical mass from ever being reached, and in reality it's mostly just a way for appliance companies who are already overcharging…

I look at it as something that's not really a necessity, but has the potential to improve my quality of life. Unfortunately, most current implementations of the idea are pretty bad. Having to take out my phone or speaking to a voice assistant to turn my lights off or on isn't all that useful. Where IoT really comes into it's own is either doing stuff automatically or doing stuff without requiring my presence (remotel…

Why not use a simple timer for the AC? Do you come home at different times each day?

Re: Mozilla debuts implementation of WebThings Gateway open-source router firmware

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This the closest we have so far to an answer to the point raised in the IETF 105 Technical Plenary a few days ago. Encrypting everything means that IoT devices represent an unknown threat - your "smart" TV connects to Sourceforge and downloads... something every week. What for? Your "smart" thermostat calls the IP of the vendor, maybe to get firmware updates, but it also calls the Disney corporation - what for? You c…

> if we can popularize a safe option, we can just flag all the unsafe approaches

I am not a lawyer, but I think under european privacy laws those approaches are probably ilegal, too.

If some manufacturer (probably chinese) wants to grab data from people in Europe, they must comply with EU laws even if they don't have an office in the EU.

Not beign able to sell to a huge market is probably a better tactique, but not the only one to use.

Re: Mozilla debuts implementation of WebThings Gateway open-source router firmware

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I look at it as something that's not really a necessity, but has the potential to improve my quality of life. Unfortunately, most current implementations of the idea are pretty bad. Having to take out my phone or speaking to a voice assistant to turn my lights off or on isn't all that useful. Where IoT really comes into it's own is either doing stuff automatically or doing stuff without requiring my presence (remotel…

Why not use a simple timer for the AC? Do you come home at different times each day?

Yes I do, even when I know when I'll get home, plans can change.

A timer also can't tell me if my AC is actually on, may fail in the case of a power outage or I may forget to set it, as such using a timer doesn't provide a meaningful improvement over just turning on the AC when I get home and tolerating the heat for half and hour or so.

In the end, a timer has no feedback, so a closed loop system will always be better. I've been burned numerous times by open-loop systems in home automation, so I don't do that anymore. That's the second reason why I spend a lot more effort and money on sensors rather than actuators (the first reason being that graphs are fun).

Re: Mozilla debuts implementation of WebThings Gateway open-source router firmware

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The article seems to lack a TLDR so here's one. It is a "software distribution for smart home gateways which allows users to directly monitor and control their smart home over the web, without a middleman." Devices supported: - Raspberry Pi - Turris Omnia Protocols supported: - HomeKit - ZigBee - Thread - MQTT - Weave - AMQP Framework languages supported: - JS (Node.js) - Python - Rust - Java - C++ (for Arduino) Home…

> without a middleman

Are you saying that I should be able to connect to my home directly over the Internet? How does it bypass NAT.

Re: Mozilla debuts implementation of WebThings Gateway open-source router firmware

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post #16

What's HN's thoughts on IoT? To me it looks like yet another buzzword from the "wouldn't it be neat?" crowd (the same people who previously gave us a lot of hype about Semantic Web and P2P social networks) but as before none of the applications are actually worth the hassle, this prevents critical mass from ever being reached, and in reality it's mostly just a way for appliance companies who are already overcharging…

IoT is a great success - in industry. At home, from what I can tell, it mostly divides into: - People who apparently live in warzones and need military-level surveillance of their home - People who want to feel like they're living in the Star Trek universe - People with very specific needs, who might take advantage of a commercial IoT device or two in their overall setup

I'd love to have blackout blinds that close every night and open 30 minutes before my alarm goes off. I haven't been able to find a quality (quiet!) product that does this.
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