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Amazon.com Announces Second Quarter Sales Up 20%

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Re: Amazon.com Announces Second Quarter Sales Up 20%

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Does anyone feel lile commenting on why stock price fell after this?

Why would you expect it to go up? The market was already pricing in the expected sales and clearly the number in the spreadsheets before the second quarter report was higher than the real actualized value that was released.

Re: Amazon.com Announces Second Quarter Sales Up 20%

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet Alibaba's revenue for all of 2018 was $55B USD, compared to $232B USD for Amazon. I see that one day sale thing appear in many mentions of Amazon and it might be a little...misleading.

Am I missing something or are Alibaba seriously making more than half their annual sales in one single day?

Alibaba’s revenue is (primarily) only the fees and commission they charge their sellers. They did $30B of gross sales on that day but probably only collected $1-3B in reportable revenue. Amazon does the same thing for it’s third-party sellers; only the fees and commission make it to Amazon’s top line revenue number for seller sales.

Re: Amazon.com Announces Second Quarter Sales Up 20%

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As always, it's due to the results being below Wall St estimates that are already priced into the stock which is still trading at an insanely expensive 100 P/E ratio.

Price/Sales is 4.01, lower than GOOG, FB or MSFT. They are going for growth, not profit. No valuation metric is perfect, but P/E is particularly useless for this company.

Comparing their price to sales ratio with that of companies in different businesses doesn’t make much sense either.

Re: Amazon.com Announces Second Quarter Sales Up 20%

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LOL so just forget any changes to inventory commingling and counterfeit merchandise.

Why would you think that your comment is relevant to their sales going up 20%? Maybe they would have gone up more if they didn't have a counterfeiting problem, or maybe they would have gone up less, I dunno.

But fundamentally sales going up has nothing to do with counterfeit goods.

Re: Amazon.com Announces Second Quarter Sales Up 20%

#36
post #15

Does anyone feel lile commenting on why stock price fell after this?

Effectively zero net income or operating income growth ($2.6b vs $2.5b; and $3.1b vs $3.0b), despite 20% sales growth. The market generally dislikes it when margins contract.

Plus, AWS growth dropped to 37% from 49%, year over year. I consider that a great number given their size is approaching that of Oracle. However, every headline likes to hang on the persistent decline in AWS growth. It's a very large part of what's propping up the enormous AMZN valuation. As goes AWS, so goes the AMZN stock.

Re: Amazon.com Announces Second Quarter Sales Up 20%

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Proof I have no idea how the stock market works: “Wow, that’s insane, their stock must have popped back over 2k because of this news!” checks ticker “Down 2.5% after hours...?”

Revenue growth slowed due to the cost of one day shipping. It's not about revenue being up, but how much revenue is growing. If revenues go up some large amount, but it's up by less percentage wise than it was up last year that means growth is slowing.

Costs aren't factored into revenue.

Re: Amazon.com Announces Second Quarter Sales Up 20%

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$14B in goodwill! Crazy.

That doesn't sound super unreasonable to me. Imagine if Amazon suddenly was a different company with a different name, holding everything else the same. How would this affect cashflows and sales? The difference in sales between this hypothetical company and Amazon is essentially what goodwill is. $14B sounds okay when you think about it like this.

Re: Amazon.com Announces Second Quarter Sales Up 20%

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Proof I have no idea how the stock market works: “Wow, that’s insane, their stock must have popped back over 2k because of this news!” checks ticker “Down 2.5% after hours...?”

The reason the stock market is hard to predict is because it itself is a prediction.
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