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Re: Spaced Repetition

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Your theory holds true with my wife and I. I love Seinfeld, she hates it :D I should note that I actually don't find what I do comedic, nor am I doing it for comedic effect - I'm analyzing the scenario in a similar way that I find myself programming. It seems to feel.. similar to me. Eg, if we're discussing superman I might start thinking about all the normal scenarios Superman must find himself in. How he deals with…

I enjoy analyzing in the same way, it's just that Seinfeld takes the same tendency and turns them into jokes, which seem to be much funnier to people who enjoy breaking down trivial things. My version of your Superman example is thinking about mutants from the X-Men universe with trivial mutations: there must be countless useless X-gene mutations, right? What might those be? Invisible skin, but not organs?

Invisible organs, not skin. Poor guy went in for a minor surgery and the doc couldn't find anything. Literally. D:

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I built an app earlier last year to help with spaced repetition on web content: https://retaino.com It's been interesting to see a lot of interested over the past year around the concept, though it may just be the Badder-Meinhof effect at play (which I'm now able to recall the name of thanks to Retaino!)

This is exactly what i've been looking for for a while now. signing up! have been using readwise for books, but this will be great for things beyond books! thanks!

Would love to hear your feedback on https://booxia.wensia.com , which handles both books and web content.

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It might be becasue you are just training recognition and not production. I use Anki to study Russian, with great results, following Gabriel Werner's Fluent Forever. In the book, he teaches how to learn the words and the grammar of a language using Anki. One of the fundamental ideas is to both create recognition and production cards. The recognition cards are the ones with a word in your target language, of which you…

I have been using Anki for the past six months for French, more-or-less following the Fluent Forever method. I found that the method worked really well for the basic vocabulary (pictures for easily identifiable objects), cloze deletion for basic grammar and other common words. However, I have recently noticed two related problems as my deck and knowledge of the language grows is size (I have about 5000 unique cards a…

The book actually allows putting definitions on cards. They just need to be in the target language, so you need a monolingual dictionary.

I have the second problem as well, but I don't know if it's really a problem. I remember learning many patterns in English before fully understanding their meaning, and the same applies to Russian.

That's probably a "feature" of learning a language. The more you will see the word in conctext, the more you will refine your understanding.

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A very fun and interactive introduction to spaced repetition by the amazing Nicky Case: https://ncase.me/remember/

Very cool site! I always wondered how you were supposed to schedule Leitner boxes manually.

Somewhat related, https://kanji.koohii.com/ uses online Leitner boxes to learn how to write all the 2000+ official commonly-used Kanji in Japanese. But I believe the timing of when the cards come due is based on when they go into a box + a certain amount of time, instead of reviewing an entire box in one day (which it can do easily since it's software). It's nice to see the stacks in each (virtual) box progress over time.

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I truly believe that spaced repetition is near-magic and it is a tragedy that it's not integrated into our society and educational system at a fundamental level. It makes me shudder to think of all the years spent learning things only to forget them weeks or months later. In any case, I've recently embarked on a long-term educational plan utilizing spaced repetition. My goal is to learn dozens of languages, historica…

I have been using spaced repetition for roughly 3 years and have seen some amazing personal growth. I was born in the US, and have now learned 2 languages (Italian B2/C1, French B1/B2, and I just started Spanish but it is so similar to italian its gonna be pretty easy to pick up ). I remember almost every book I have read in the past three years by using kindle highlights and turning them into flash- cards. I use it…

Can you give an example or two of how you effectively turn your Kindle highlights into flash cards?

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I often feel like learning things with Anki puts memories into the wrong part of the brain. It happens way too often that I can perfectly recall something from Anki (on a PC or phone), but have a lot of trouble recalling it 'in action'.

It's definitely "learned" in a very specific context. For example, I learned all US states and their capitals for a Pub Quiz. That means cards with state/capital. Then at some point there was a quiz question called "Which state capital is the last if sorted alphabetically?" And I couldn't answer it because it didn't fit my learning pattern.

I thought your comment was interesting so I posed this question to my children (10 and 12.) It took them about 15 minutes to answer. Assuming an adult might be twice as fast, that’s still a long time to answer a written quiz. So, fair point. However, they had an easier time answering other questions about extreme state capitals that had more to do with geography, so I don’t think rote memory methods should be entirely faulted.

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Sorry but I disagree completely. The ability to quickly find information online doesn’t negate the fact that intellectual progress and creativity often come from making connections between disparate fields. The only way to make these deeper connections is to truly know and digest the information, not simply to google it. It is probably a consequence of the computer age that we think of information as a singular piece…

Connecting information is orthogonal to remembering it. Same with digesting information: you don't need to use something like spaced-repetition to commit knowledge to long term memory in order to digest it, you just need to spend some time understanding the info. In fact, I'd argue that spaced-repetition runs somewhat counter to deeply understanding information. It's easy to repetitively memorize and recall info with…

No one's suggesting you memorize information you don't understand....

Re: Spaced Repetition

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I truly believe that spaced repetition is near-magic and it is a tragedy that it's not integrated into our society and educational system at a fundamental level. It makes me shudder to think of all the years spent learning things only to forget them weeks or months later. In any case, I've recently embarked on a long-term educational plan utilizing spaced repetition. My goal is to learn dozens of languages, historica…

It's not a cure-all, especially for language learning. I say this as someone who has done a ton of spaced repetition, language learning and who, in a former life, wrote curriculum for language learners. 95% of the time, if you have the option to choose between ER (extensive reading) and SRS, go with ER. SRS is very useful for certain sub-problems in language learning, though.

> I'm curious if anyone else has used spaced repetition over a long period of time with a deliberately ambitious plan.

An early pioneer, Piotr Wozniak, did exactly that, even to the detriment of the business success of Super Memo. He lived his life by an algorithm, timed swimming workouts to aid his SRS, put his emails through SRS, lived on a > 24 hour schedule... He basically went all in.

If you're interested in SRS and its history, you might enjoy my podcast: https://alchemist.camp/learning-machine/spaced-repetition-sy...

Re: Spaced Repetition

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I truly believe that spaced repetition is near-magic and it is a tragedy that it's not integrated into our society and educational system at a fundamental level. It makes me shudder to think of all the years spent learning things only to forget them weeks or months later. In any case, I've recently embarked on a long-term educational plan utilizing spaced repetition. My goal is to learn dozens of languages, historica…

I have been using spaced repetition for roughly 3 years and have seen some amazing personal growth. I was born in the US, and have now learned 2 languages (Italian B2/C1, French B1/B2, and I just started Spanish but it is so similar to italian its gonna be pretty easy to pick up ). I remember almost every book I have read in the past three years by using kindle highlights and turning them into flash- cards. I use it…

Did you make phonics decks to help you when you were getting started with the languages? I did that with Vietnamese and found it helped a lot in getting over the initial hump while I was visiting.

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I’ve used Anki pretty consistently throughout my university studies for just about every course. I plan to continue using it to keep a high level overview of some of the important maths concepts I want to stay fresh on. I’ve been enjoying Mochi[0] as an alternative recently. It has a much nicer UI and the core features I use are all there. I find it much faster to create my cards in Markdown and with a keyboard drive…

Is the repetition algorithm superior or inferior than Anki in your experience?

Anki uses a Super Memo algorithm and Mochi appears to be using a simpler one that doesn't take card difficulty into account.

I can see how using markdown to create cards would be a big draw, though.

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