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Paris breaks all-time high temperature as deadly heat wave grips Europe

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Re: Paris breaks all-time high temperature as deadly heat wave grips Europe

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Conflate weather and climate, I thought that's what "deniers" do?

According to normal variations around the long term average, these kind of temperatures would be happening once every 50 or 100 years, but they are happening now every few years. There’s only so many times you can roll a six before you conclude the die is loaded, and you should really start worrying when the die starts rolling sevens!

These temperatures are breaking 60-70 year old records. For example the prior Paris record was set in July 1947. And is about to drop to seasonal averages starting tomorrow (80s F)... You're quite wrong on this.

Re: Paris breaks all-time high temperature as deadly heat wave grips Europe

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http://www.weatheraction.com/resource/data/wact1/docs/PiersC... Piers Corbyn's latest (June 22nd) deck

well that's disturbing but interesting to be aware of. I'm surprised that this doesn't innately trigger any reader's quack detector

Re: Paris breaks all-time high temperature as deadly heat wave grips Europe

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Probably. Much of Europe hasn't really needed AC until now. It would often only have been really impactful for one or two weeks a year. Not really worth the investment. With temperatures climbing this high, and being maintained for longer periods, I recently bought my first mobile AC unit and am thinking about installing a permanent one after the summer.

Where are you? Apparently there is a surge in AC sales in The Netherlands as well. Sure, we have had a few hot days now and about a month ago, but nothing that can't be handled with a good ventilator. The remaining 355 days of the year we absolutely don't need an AC. Now people have AC units installed and also turn them on when it's 30 degrees celsius outside. Given that we are nowhere near 100% renewable energy yet,…

Slashdot-esque post:

1. Set up AC company in Europe

2. Wait for panicked calls from sweltering people

3. Profit!!

Re: Paris breaks all-time high temperature as deadly heat wave grips Europe

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post #7

We're seeing record shattering temperatures in different parts of the world a lot this yet - yet the article doesn't even mention climate change. As long as we keep shoveling meat into our faces 5x per day and the population keeps expanding at break-neck rate, we have massive heatwaves and endless storms to look forward to. And then that road will come to an end, and it won't be pretty.

> As long as we keep shoveling meat into our faces 5x per day Right, because that's your biggest problem. It couldn't be the fossil fuels used for transportation (29%) or the industry that produces the goods and the raw materials like cement (22%), the production of electricity (28%), or even the commercial and residential emissions (12%). Oh no, our biggest problem has to be agriculture (9%). And let's not talk abou…

The problem is everything. I sometimes have discussions with people about unnecessary flights. People always point out, that there is no need to change their flying habits as long as industry is producing even more CO2. The thing is that if we want to turn this around we have to change our behavior in everything. We need to radically adjust our travel patterns, our consumption patterns (why a new phone every 2 years?), our eating patterns, our energy sources, etc.

Unfortunately, I fear that it is too late to turn things around. Climate change has been a known serious problem for at least three to four decades. But politicians do not want to bring the bad news that we need to change our lives drastically in order to get their votes the next election.

But we should still try for future generations. No more holidays by plane. Switch to renewable energy. Live close to work and travel by bike or work remotely. And yes, perhaps eat a little less meat.

Re: Paris breaks all-time high temperature as deadly heat wave grips Europe

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Because reactors need a lot of water as coolant, and they were designed with assumptions about how high the temperature of the water would be, which are now being broken. They started building that reactor in 1982, before they understood that temperatures were in the process of rising 1.5C (up to now).

The more accurate answer is that to not cook everything downstream they are forbidden from releasing to hot a water. If the upstream is already hot, they have no margin to not cook the fish downstream so they close shop. (It’s a bit more complicated since it depends also on the River size, but the main factor is downstream temp.)

Also to add, the water doesn't have to be hot enough to literally cook fish to be an issue - a big concern is how the different micro-organisms/plants/fish/etc react to the temperature change of there normal habitat.

Re: Paris breaks all-time high temperature as deadly heat wave grips Europe

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Cut the military and substantially cut emissions. Consumer decisions aren't up to this task: consumers accept what is sold to them, and what is sold is driven by profitability - the ability to make something that can be made exclusive and sold repeatedly. That is a requirement which walls off most good ideas and forces unlimited consumption of natural resources.

https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2010s...

Re: Paris breaks all-time high temperature as deadly heat wave grips Europe

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Calm down, there will be a war or virus or climate change itself will help us with the overpopulation problem. If you killed every second person and planted a tree things will balance themselves out.

You joke (I think) but that's the path we're headed down. I'm fully expecting over a billion people to die within my lifetime from disease, malnutrition, and war spurred by climate change. It's foolish to think humans are so different from other life that we won't have a population crash after such rapid growth.

I joke because the parent statement had so much fear and emotion. Sometimes things are out of our control. The world has systems for balancing everything.

On the positive side without population crashes evolution doesn't work so in some ways things are working as as designed.

Re: Paris breaks all-time high temperature as deadly heat wave grips Europe

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http://www.weatheraction.com/resource/data/wact1/docs/PiersC... Piers Corbyn's latest (June 22nd) deck

well that's disturbing but interesting to be aware of. I'm surprised that this doesn't innately trigger any reader's quack detector

We are bombarded daily with hysteria about the world ending due to climate change caused by humans. There are lots of opposing views but they are almost invariably laughed off because 'it's been decided'. I'm on the fence about Corbyn but he's serious enough to warrant attention
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