I built an app earlier last year to help with spaced repetition on web content: https://retaino.com It's been interesting to see a lot of interested over the past year around the concept, though it may just be the Badder-Meinhof effect at play (which I'm now able to recall the name of thanks to Retaino!)
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It might be becasue you are just training recognition and not production. I use Anki to study Russian, with great results, following Gabriel Werner's Fluent Forever. In the book, he teaches how to learn the words and the grammar of a language using Anki. One of the fundamental ideas is to both create recognition and production cards. The recognition cards are the ones with a word in your target language, of which you…
What you describe is intentional vocabulary acquisition. However I'd like to point out that such words learned via this method consist only of a small portion of the vocabularies of both native speakers and L2 learners. Majority of vocabulary comes through incidental vocabulary acquisition [0]. Such methods of learning the language would make you a practitioner of the Skill-Building Hypothesis in your SLA (Second Lan…
The learning through an SRS happens only for the 1.000 most common words of a language and its grammar.
After that, learning is intermixed with speaking, reading, writing and listening to learn vocabulary through comprehensible input.
Still, I have to say that learning the top words and grammar, I got to an impressive level, giving the effort. I can listen to some podcasts, read what people write on Facebook and some articles, and speak with friends in noisy contexts.
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#73I often feel like learning things with Anki puts memories into the wrong part of the brain. It happens way too often that I can perfectly recall something from Anki (on a PC or phone), but have a lot of trouble recalling it 'in action'.
Interesting - have you had any thoughts as to how to improve this? Eg, to get the items into the correct part of your brain?
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#74With how often I've seen spaced repetition mentioned online recently, I'm starting to assume there's a grand conspiracy that's trying to use spaced repetition to trick me into remembering about spaced repetition.
[Warning: attempt at taking joke seriously] Surely if this were so, it would mean you'd see fewer mentions of spaced repetition over time, rather than more? (assuming your comment implies having seen more than usual recently)
Only if they start learning the meaning behind it by using it ;) As long as they ignore it, it will just reappear in a fixed interval.
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#75I truly believe that spaced repetition is near-magic and it is a tragedy that it's not integrated into our society and educational system at a fundamental level. It makes me shudder to think of all the years spent learning things only to forget them weeks or months later. In any case, I've recently embarked on a long-term educational plan utilizing spaced repetition. My goal is to learn dozens of languages, historica…
It's fine for you to have a personal goal of using spaced repetition to learn dozens of languages, historical events, etc, but it's really not a tragedy that it's not integrated into our society. It's good that we've moved on.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
[Warning: attempt at taking joke seriously] Surely if this were so, it would mean you'd see fewer mentions of spaced repetition over time, rather than more? (assuming your comment implies having seen more than usual recently)
> [Warning: attempt at taking joke seriously] As an aside, I love doing this sort of thing. In conversation, someone makes a joke about X doing something impossible, and then all of us who analyze everything to death start playing the scenario in our head to understand ramifications or limitations in the fictional and often impossible scenario. Drives my wife nuts, but I enjoy it so much :)
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
It might be becasue you are just training recognition and not production. I use Anki to study Russian, with great results, following Gabriel Werner's Fluent Forever. In the book, he teaches how to learn the words and the grammar of a language using Anki. One of the fundamental ideas is to both create recognition and production cards. The recognition cards are the ones with a word in your target language, of which you…
I'm also studying Russian. Are you using the Fluent Forever app along with the book? How are you storing your anki cards (anki app or something else).
The only advice that I find a bit rushed is to read books with the audio after you learn the top 1.000 words and half of your grammar book. That's still too hard for me.
But I can listen to this Russian-only podcast and undertand almost everything: https://russianpodcast.eu
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
It might be becasue you are just training recognition and not production. I use Anki to study Russian, with great results, following Gabriel Werner's Fluent Forever. In the book, he teaches how to learn the words and the grammar of a language using Anki. One of the fundamental ideas is to both create recognition and production cards. The recognition cards are the ones with a word in your target language, of which you…
I think you meant Gabriel Werner's excellent Fluent Forever.
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#80I truly believe that spaced repetition is near-magic and it is a tragedy that it's not integrated into our society and educational system at a fundamental level. It makes me shudder to think of all the years spent learning things only to forget them weeks or months later. In any case, I've recently embarked on a long-term educational plan utilizing spaced repetition. My goal is to learn dozens of languages, historica…
There isn't much value in memorizing vast amounts of facts like that anymore (you already mentioned two key areas where that's still needed: language and medicine). Nowadays it's better to remember where to find facts and learn quickly than to simply remember facts upfront. It's fine for you to have a personal goal of using spaced repetition to learn dozens of languages, historical events, etc, but it's really not a…
It is probably a consequence of the computer age that we think of information as a singular piece of data that is either known/nor known, and not as something that needs to be learned, dwelt upon, and digested over time.