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Facebook Research Warned of ‘Tipping Point’ Threat to Core App

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Re: Facebook Research Warned of ‘Tipping Point’ Threat to Core App

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Post by calaphos »

nolok wrote: post #14

While I have a facebook account I'm not a big user, it's mostly for a few contacts that are only on messenger. I don't look at my "stream" a lot, and when I do it's mostly useless content like meme, self-centered post and whatnot that I personnaly have zero interest in, with maybe 1% of actually interesting thing in between like birth annoncement from acquaintances etc ... I don't plan to delete my account because I…

I 've heard thag Facebook uses microphones in smartpones to correlate users with TV or billboard ads. They use ultra or infrasound to broadcast information to nearby phone microphones so Facebook (or others) now that you watched the add

Re: Facebook Research Warned of ‘Tipping Point’ Threat to Core App

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Post by chaosbolt »

dontbenebby wrote: post #51

Is this really surprising? The strength of a network is n^2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe's_law It makes sense that the more people leaving a network then the utility of said network will decline. What seems odd is why they care if people move to Insta or WhatsApp, since FB owna both.

This, I removed FB a few years ago and never even tried Instagram, but my gf has both, and we speak everyday on Whatsapp, and I have a picture on Whatsapp, so they still know pretty much everything about me if they scrap the conversations for keywords or something more advanced.

Tried removing Whatsapp for something like Telegram but couldn't since I need to convince my parents and sisters and gf and friends to move there too.

Re: Facebook Research Warned of ‘Tipping Point’ Threat to Core App

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Post by jbob2000 »

Zak wrote: post #55

I can say what has reduced my Facebook use, if anybody in a relevant position at the company is reading. It's the content Facebook shows me. A decade or so ago, most of the content I saw on Facebook was original content from people I know. Most posts were either text written by someone I knew, or a photo taken by someone I knew. Perhaps not everybody shares this position, but what I most want from Facebook is to keep…

This is what people used to call "selling out". There's no money in original content between friends, facebook doesn't care that they no longer serve this need for you. Their new job is to show ads for fortune 500 companies so that the pension funds invested in the facebook stock can continue to make money.

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Post by Bayart »

Zak wrote: post #55

I can say what has reduced my Facebook use, if anybody in a relevant position at the company is reading. It's the content Facebook shows me. A decade or so ago, most of the content I saw on Facebook was original content from people I know. Most posts were either text written by someone I knew, or a photo taken by someone I knew. Perhaps not everybody shares this position, but what I most want from Facebook is to keep…

I've had a similar experience. Back in the days I used to have interesting talks with a bunch of people from overlapping networks, and met a lot of friends that way. Nowadays I'm just spammed by all the rubbish posted by people I shallowly know while the people I want to keep in touch with are invisible. It's been years since I've actually met somebody interesting on FB. They're actively obfuscating valuable content for their users to force-feed them with content that's valuable to themselves.

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Post by Zak »

jbob2000 wrote: post #63
Zak wrote: post #55

I can say what has reduced my Facebook use, if anybody in a relevant position at the company is reading. It's the content Facebook shows me. A decade or so ago, most of the content I saw on Facebook was original content from people I know. Most posts were either text written by someone I knew, or a photo taken by someone I knew. Perhaps not everybody shares this position, but what I most want from Facebook is to keep…

This is what people used to call "selling out". There's no money in original content between friends, facebook doesn't care that they no longer serve this need for you. Their new job is to show ads for fortune 500 companies so that the pension funds invested in the facebook stock can continue to make money.

I will spend more time on Facebook, potentially looking at ads it wants to show me if it does a better job keeping me in touch with people I know.

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Post by flanbiscuit »

Zak wrote: post #59
deanclatworthy wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Enjoy insta while it lasts. They are having more and more sponsored posts creep into the feed. I don’t expect this trend to reverse. It’s how they make money.

I'm not actually a big fan of Instagram. Its format restrictions and mobile-only upload may be contributing to it having more interesting content for the moment, but I'm convinced Facebook could achieve a more interesting feed by changing the algorithm as well. I don't mind terribly if there are a few sponsored posts in any of my social media feeds. I suspect the acceptable rate is somewhere around one per five origi…

The thing I enjoy most about the sponsored posts is seeing people rip into the product in the comments.

Re: Facebook Research Warned of ‘Tipping Point’ Threat to Core App

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

cobookman wrote: post #27
nexuist wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Snapchat is not any better. Given their financials I am sure they are selling my data to anyone who is willing to pay for it.

Source to back that up? From my understanding Snap's entire spiel is user privacy

He's offering his opinion, how can there be any source?

He basically said it's based only on financials. Perhaps better to say why you feel he should change his opinion, just need on Snap's spiel?

Between the two I'm more inclined to believe "industry practice + financials" than "marketing spiel".

Do you (or above else) have anything better to go on?

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Post by reroute1 »

crikli wrote: post #29
Retric wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think of secret as having a negative connotation. Secret Santa, secret key exchange, etc it’s just descriptive.

Context is everything. The things you're talking about are innocuous with no negative loading or reputation. Facebook isn't innocuous and has a high negative load and reputation. Tack the word "secret" in front of some internal research they did and it puts a darker shade on something every company does (internal research).

"Facebook Isn't innocuous"

This is 100% your opinion.

Re: Facebook Research Warned of ‘Tipping Point’ Threat to Core App

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Post by athenot »

Zak wrote: post #55

I can say what has reduced my Facebook use, if anybody in a relevant position at the company is reading. It's the content Facebook shows me. A decade or so ago, most of the content I saw on Facebook was original content from people I know. Most posts were either text written by someone I knew, or a photo taken by someone I knew. Perhaps not everybody shares this position, but what I most want from Facebook is to keep…

This has been my experience as well.

Equally annoying are the notifications menu (the actual notifications, I disabled a long time ago). I've been relying on them since the feed is useless but now they too have become cluttered with things like "posts you may have missed".

I would love a platform that is just original content (text and original media), and where any links are just text WITHOUT previews. Kinda like how Twitter used to be… but they seem to be heading in the same direction as FB, just less aggressively.

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