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I thought I was being ‘blacklisted’, so I demanded to see colleagues’ emails

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An interesting outcome of the GPDR! Does the author have any recourse? Can they sue?

For what? Someone's negative opinion of them?

Well, TFA opens with "Blacklisting at work has been illegal in the UK since 2010", but I guess it'd be hard to argue that what's described is bona fide blacklisting.

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>Where my personality was called into question perhaps my working-class background, my northern accent, and my Aspergers could be a reasonable explanation.

Easier to resort to such hypotheses than be self critical, I guess.

Do we really fall in the category where one student with apparently decent thesis results gets ostarcized by her advisor AND the examiners, where no one in the faculty or comittee would stand for her, even though successfull students do bring a lot of prestige to their team, lab and advisor ? Would it really be in their interest if they have no reason to ? She is doubtly their first tutored PhD ever, and I guess have they seen enough to give feedback that is relied on by other actors in the field ?

I mean, we're all old enough to have met people that despite competence are hard to work (or be) with and would rather not have to deal with.

And considering she did a smart and unconventional GDPR request, and she's legitimately pissed off about its results but goes as far as to publish in the press about it...

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An interesting outcome of the GPDR! Does the author have any recourse? Can they sue?

For what? Someone's negative opinion of them?

For libel and slander, calling him stupid when he passed the exams set by the very examiner himself. Loss of earnings, etc.

Also against the universities for breach of the blacklisting prohibitions in the employment act. Their lack of checks and balances against this informal blacklist has left them wide open to be sued.

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An interesting outcome of the GPDR! Does the author have any recourse? Can they sue?

For what? Someone's negative opinion of them?

The UK has famously strict libel laws, and notably the burden of proof is on the defendant to prove the truth of their defamatory speech.

https://www.burnetts.co.uk/publications/blogs/libel-and-slan...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_defamation_law

Re: I thought I was being ‘blacklisted’, so I demanded to see colleagues’ emails

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Anecdotally, I met someone who stopped updating their linkedin profile because he found out someone was making anonymous comments and allegations to his employers. He didn't know what they were or who it was because it came second hand from a colleague who told him that an exec had asked about him because of an anonymous message.

Also, whisper networks in tech are very much a thing and they are full of just the quality of people you would expect to find in them. When asked about people I truly can't stand, I say I am sympathetic to the barriers they faced to success and we didn't know each other well. It's not a code, it's the truth. I don't give much weight to the opinions of people who are cruel or have axes to grind either. This is a rare view.

Keep your public social networks well-pruned. Don't talk about plans, the future, or uncertain opportunities, and if you work for crappy people, get out as fast as you can before you give them an unlimited option on causing your reputation harm for the rest of your career.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what? Someone's negative opinion of them?

For libel and slander, calling him stupid when he passed the exams set by the very examiner himself. Loss of earnings, etc. Also against the universities for breach of the blacklisting prohibitions in the employment act. Their lack of checks and balances against this informal blacklist has left them wide open to be sued.

There's a wide gap between a blacklisting system and someone getting a bad recommendation from an advisor.

I've met plenty of stupid people who can pass exams.

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>Where my personality was called into question perhaps my working-class background, my northern accent, and my Aspergers could be a reasonable explanation. Easier to resort to such hypotheses than be self critical, I guess. Do we really fall in the category where one student with apparently decent thesis results gets ostarcized by her advisor AND the examiners, where no one in the faculty or comittee would stand for…

Doing this behind her back, and without recourse, refusing to talk about it to the person in question, basically the whole way this happened, does not shine a good light on the advisors here.

Plus, you may have noticed, she wrote under a non-identifiable name (outside maybe people already in the know) and didn't name the people in question, nor the institutions. So yeah, she's pissed, IMHO rightfully so, especially since this is a career breaking thing and without recourse.

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