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Re: How Weight Training Might Change the Brain

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Post by noragami » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 9:34 AM UTC

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #72

BeatLeJuce wrote: post #41

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Maybe you feel out of place because you're thinking in terms of "alphas" etc., which to me sounds like a totally douche/"bro" thing to do. Most people I know that don't lift don't care about body shapes etc., otherwise they would lift.

> Most people I know that don't lift don't care about body shapes This is a lie and you know it. Everyone and I mean literally everyone cares about appearances. No matter how you slice it everyone has a style they are trying to project. This same goes for body shape. If we had a pill that instantly -- without effort -- gave everyone a six pack and lean muscular body, everyone of your friends would be on it, because d…

>everyone of your friends would be on it

No. Why are you talking in absolutes after spending so much time on the internet? There are always exceptions.

Muscular body requires a ton of energy and protein to maintain. Not trying to get on a soapbox here, but I am personally trying to minimize my impact on the environment. This includes eating the minimum amount of protein required to stay healthy. I definitely won't waste the additional energy to maintain useless muscles (which are absolutely useless for a desk job), which will not even be visible under the baggy shirts I prefer to wear.

Re: How Weight Training Might Change the Brain

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Post by WalterBright » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 9:35 AM UTC

hueving wrote: post #27

fortran77 wrote: post #22

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I'm not sure. Even though I don't want to admit it, I'm sure I, along with many others, would have more confidence in a fit, muscular person than an out-of-shape slovenly one.

I'm the opposite for hardcore engineers. An in-shape, muscular person looks like they have dedicated a non-trivial amount of time to not software. I presume most people that look like that just see writing software as "a job" and won't be as capable of fully owning anything more complex than small portions of a complex application.

On the other hand, I do my best thinking when going for a jog. It doesn't require extra time.

Re: How Weight Training Might Change the Brain

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Post by circlefavshape » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 9:35 AM UTC

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #72

BeatLeJuce wrote: post #41

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Maybe you feel out of place because you're thinking in terms of "alphas" etc., which to me sounds like a totally douche/"bro" thing to do. Most people I know that don't lift don't care about body shapes etc., otherwise they would lift.

> Most people I know that don't lift don't care about body shapes This is a lie and you know it. Everyone and I mean literally everyone cares about appearances. No matter how you slice it everyone has a style they are trying to project. This same goes for body shape. If we had a pill that instantly -- without effort -- gave everyone a six pack and lean muscular body, everyone of your friends would be on it, because d…

> Problem is one of discipline

Not discipline - priorities. I'm lean and fairly fit, and while I would like to be a little bit more muscular I'd rather spend the time at the piano or with my family

Re: How Weight Training Might Change the Brain

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Post by dewyatt » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 9:44 AM UTC

jamespo wrote: post #100

reitanqild wrote: post #94

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> Is there a reason why there is a decline in testosterone? Except for the ongoing war against boys? I'm fully aware that girls has faced problems as well, probably more than men, but the solution to that shouldn't be to punish young boys today for the sins of their grandparents. Edit: I'm serious. I'm as much against sexism as anyone, but IMO the solution isn't to make all boys behave more like girls but to make boy…

Ow your poor male feelings

It seems like you're proving his point.

Re: How Weight Training Might Change the Brain

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Post by swebs » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 9:44 AM UTC

leet_thow wrote: post #76

bigmit37 wrote: post #73

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Is there a reason why there is a decline in testosterone? Is it connected to the sperm count steadily decreasing mystery?

Last I checked no one has put forth a plausible theory.

There are several related to diet including obesity and xenoestrogens.

Re: How Weight Training Might Change the Brain

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Post by marliechiller » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 9:46 AM UTC

jamespo wrote: post #100

reitanqild wrote: post #94

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> Is there a reason why there is a decline in testosterone? Except for the ongoing war against boys? I'm fully aware that girls has faced problems as well, probably more than men, but the solution to that shouldn't be to punish young boys today for the sins of their grandparents. Edit: I'm serious. I'm as much against sexism as anyone, but IMO the solution isn't to make all boys behave more like girls but to make boy…

Ow your poor male feelings

is this sarcasm? belittling someone because of their sex. really short-sighted

Re: How Weight Training Might Change the Brain

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Post by reitanqild » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 10:06 AM UTC

jamespo wrote: post #100

reitanqild wrote: post #94

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> Is there a reason why there is a decline in testosterone? Except for the ongoing war against boys? I'm fully aware that girls has faced problems as well, probably more than men, but the solution to that shouldn't be to punish young boys today for the sins of their grandparents. Edit: I'm serious. I'm as much against sexism as anyone, but IMO the solution isn't to make all boys behave more like girls but to make boy…

Ow your poor male feelings

I'm one of the lucky ones: background from farming, well paid job as an engineer now. Can work hard, climb etc as well as program and help run big distributed networks as part of an ops team. Big family. Married for over a decade to a woman who love me and who is easy to love back. More than three kids together. In-laws are nice.

I do have my struggles, yes, but I don't write about them on the Internet but I'll tell as much: I'm happy to be a man.

But I do feel sorry for the boys (and girls) who grow up in more limited environments. And for boys with fewer good male role models and society telling them it's their fault for being born with a different chromosome.

Re: How Weight Training Might Change the Brain

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Post by dTal » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 10:22 AM UTC

leet_thow wrote: post #57

ramblerman wrote: post #52

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Everyone really is a victim these days aren't they. I'm sorry but as another tall, muscled software engineer, it sounds like you need to get off those forums. I'm sure there are some people that feel that way, but when it comes to leadership, and other areas in life the truth is that your frame will give you 'instinctual' benefits. Not to mention with women. Life isn't fair. But don't feel bad for the positive traits…

I don't feel bad and don't feel like a victim, I'm just stating an observation. I'm on those forums because I've become fascinated by social and evolutionary psychology and they provide a lot of insight into people's thinking.

Be careful with that "fascinated by psychology" justification for hanging out in toxic places. I've heard that kind of statement from people before, that they're "not really" in a subculture, they just find it "anthropologically interesting". 99% of the time it's at least partly BS, a mental self-excuse to distance themselves from something they find actually quite intriguing.

If you frequent such places, you will inevitably pick up the concepts they use, like you did with "mogging". Once you have the concepts in your brain, you will begin to pattern-match them in daily life - like you did with "mogging". It is exactly this acquisition of "new concepts with which to view the world" which is interesting. But once you start habitually viewing the world through a manosphere lens, you are on a slippery slope to becoming like them. Take a look - do you want that?

tl;dr meme exposure is dangerous and should not be taken lightly - we don't have the mental separation we think we do. This is not calling you out or anything, just a PSA to you and anyone else reading this thread - innocent curiosity is how people get radicalized!

Re: How Weight Training Might Change the Brain

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Post by dewote » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 10:26 AM UTC

vl wrote: post #81

kasey_junk wrote: post #8

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Strong recommendation for the StrongLifts 5x5 iOS app. That said there are some downsides to 5x5. - the lifts in it are simple, but also very easy to hurt yourself with if you don’t have good form. Form work is not emphasized. - there is no flexibility work in it. It’s basically impossible to do strength work without flexibility. To the point 5x5 should likely recommend yoga as a central component or something. - whi…

There are few things they don’t tell you about weightlifting: - stretching is critical and takes time, without stretching you’ll eventually injure yourself. - eventually you’ll get some minor injury and will have to manage that and wait for it to heal. - start by getting a coach to specifically learn good from and find your max weights for different lifts. Strictly control trainer’s desire to add some non-core exerci…

Do you know of any recommended stretching routines?

Re: How Weight Training Might Change the Brain

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Post by nextlevelwizard » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 10:53 AM UTC

noragami wrote: post #101

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #72

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> Most people I know that don't lift don't care about body shapes This is a lie and you know it. Everyone and I mean literally everyone cares about appearances. No matter how you slice it everyone has a style they are trying to project. This same goes for body shape. If we had a pill that instantly -- without effort -- gave everyone a six pack and lean muscular body, everyone of your friends would be on it, because d…

>everyone of your friends would be on it No. Why are you talking in absolutes after spending so much time on the internet? There are always exceptions. Muscular body requires a ton of energy and protein to maintain. Not trying to get on a soapbox here, but I am personally trying to minimize my impact on the environment. This includes eating the minimum amount of protein required to stay healthy. I definitely won't wa…

we are already talking about magic pill, why should you assume it required any more energy than you consume now?

>useless muscles (which are absolutely useless for a desk job), which will not even be visible under the baggy shirts I prefer to wear.

This is cope if I've ever seen some. You can rationalize it anyway you want, but deep down you know that if you at this instant could have rock hard abs with perfectly sculpted body without any effort you'd take it. You'd find use for it.