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Tesla co-founder and CTO JB Straubel stepping down

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Re: Tesla co-founder and CTO JB Straubel stepping down

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> His departure is the latest in a long string of high-profile executives to leave Tesla in the past year, most recently Steve McManus, a vice president in charge of engineering for car interiors and exteriors at Tesla, who joined Apple. Two other former Tesla executives, Michael Schwekutsch, and chief engineer Doug Field, have also left to join Apple. Not to understate the significance of Tesla losing Straubel, but…

Since January 2018: Jason Mendez, director of manufacturing engineering Will McColl, manager of equipment engineering Jon McNeill, president of global sales and services Eric Branderiz, chief accounting officer Susan Repo, corporate treasurer and vice president of finance Jim Keller, head of Autopilot hardware engineering Georg Ell, director of Western Europe operations Matthew Schwall, director of field performance…

Mostly managerial positions. Meh.

Re: Tesla co-founder and CTO JB Straubel stepping down

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Why do some many people hate Tesla and want them to fail? Do they also want SpaceX to fail?

Elon can be an asshat sometimes, and he oversells and is over-optimistic. But even if the short sellers are right and Tesla will go bankrupt (which, btw, does not equal failure in many ways), why are so many people excited about that?

Most tech giants of recent times have done things I would consider to have made the world a much worse place. Why is Tesla, which has done a lot for humanity and is a key advancement in tackling climate change, hated so much? Why not save your hate for companies damaging democracy or workers rights, which seem like more serious charges?

Re: Tesla co-founder and CTO JB Straubel stepping down

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Why do some many people hate Tesla and want them to fail? Do they also want SpaceX to fail? Elon can be an asshat sometimes, and he oversells and is over-optimistic. But even if the short sellers are right and Tesla will go bankrupt (which, btw, does not equal failure in many ways), why are so many people excited about that? Most tech giants of recent times have done things I would consider to have made the world a m…

Personally I dislike Tesla because I think Autopilot causes preventable deaths.

Re: Tesla co-founder and CTO JB Straubel stepping down

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Why do some many people hate Tesla and want them to fail? Do they also want SpaceX to fail? Elon can be an asshat sometimes, and he oversells and is over-optimistic. But even if the short sellers are right and Tesla will go bankrupt (which, btw, does not equal failure in many ways), why are so many people excited about that? Most tech giants of recent times have done things I would consider to have made the world a m…

Personally I dislike Tesla because I think Autopilot causes preventable deaths.

Humans driving cars cause preventable deaths.

Re: Tesla co-founder and CTO JB Straubel stepping down

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Why do some many people hate Tesla and want them to fail? Do they also want SpaceX to fail? Elon can be an asshat sometimes, and he oversells and is over-optimistic. But even if the short sellers are right and Tesla will go bankrupt (which, btw, does not equal failure in many ways), why are so many people excited about that? Most tech giants of recent times have done things I would consider to have made the world a m…

Personally I dislike Tesla because I think Autopilot causes preventable deaths.

I don’t understand the downvotes. This was actually the same reason for me that changed my perception of the company and of musk, from something fantastic to something dangerous.

When they went from saying « we’re aiming at self driving car in the future » to « our car are able to do it right now », leaving all kinds of ambiguity just for the sake of hyping the brand, they crossed the red line.

Re: Tesla co-founder and CTO JB Straubel stepping down

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Why do some many people hate Tesla and want them to fail? Do they also want SpaceX to fail? Elon can be an asshat sometimes, and he oversells and is over-optimistic. But even if the short sellers are right and Tesla will go bankrupt (which, btw, does not equal failure in many ways), why are so many people excited about that? Most tech giants of recent times have done things I would consider to have made the world a m…

Personally I dislike Tesla because I think Autopilot causes preventable deaths.

Musk’s hubris is annoying, but how many lives did he save by not waiting until the autopilot was “ready”? It is probably in the dozens at this point.

Re: Tesla co-founder and CTO JB Straubel stepping down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I dislike Tesla because I think Autopilot causes preventable deaths.

Humans driving cars cause preventable deaths.

I guess OP means preventable by others who are knowledgeable of the preventability?

Re: Tesla co-founder and CTO JB Straubel stepping down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I dislike Tesla because I think Autopilot causes preventable deaths.

Musk’s hubris is annoying, but how many lives did he save by not waiting until the autopilot was “ready”? It is probably in the dozens at this point.

I'm not sure why you think that. While this is a very dense document, it details a lot about the fatality statistics around Teslas and Autopilot. The short version is that Teslas are actually not very safe cars (relatively speaking), and Autopilot is probably much more dangerous than manual driving (although Tesla won't release the data, so we don't know for sure).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ESnyJ4b7m96OCjs3GSQ6...

Re: Tesla co-founder and CTO JB Straubel stepping down

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Why do some many people hate Tesla and want them to fail? Do they also want SpaceX to fail? Elon can be an asshat sometimes, and he oversells and is over-optimistic. But even if the short sellers are right and Tesla will go bankrupt (which, btw, does not equal failure in many ways), why are so many people excited about that? Most tech giants of recent times have done things I would consider to have made the world a m…

Personally I dislike Tesla because I think Autopilot causes preventable deaths.

Do you dislike drunk-drivers and phone-drivers with the same passion and focus? Do you expect them to gradually become better and better at driving through natural evolution?
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