Don’t Put Your Work Email on Your Personal Phone

Post by bradknowles » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 10:40 PM UTC

ben7799 wrote: post #227

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Recently my employer has pushed for Okta Identity management. And somewhere in that plan they somehow thought appropriating employee personal phones was a good idea. Now we can't login to certain internal apps without a mobile device because Okta needs one time password/accepting push notification. And the otp/push notification should necessarily happen on a mobile device. Given that company hasn't provided any mobil…

We use Okta where I work but we are allowed to install Okta Verify without installing the MDM profile. If we want to do work email on our phone, we do have to submit to MDM. 99% of the employees I know refused to allow MDM on their personal phone, and the company was OK with that. They made a few managers carry work issued 2nd phones. We also use Slack and are allowed to use that without MDM so that works for a lot o…

Post by jammygit » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 11:07 PM UTC

thisisit wrote: post #201

kemiller2002 wrote: post #102

Funny story (well OK, not so funny), I worked at a company where the FBI decided to pay a visit and investigate some potential naughtiness performed by members of the senior staff. They asked questions such as "Do you use your cell phone and personal email for company matters." Guess what a lot of them said, "Yep, have to." That immediately made their personal equipment, etc. in scope for the investigation and they c…

Recently my employer has pushed for Okta Identity management. And somewhere in that plan they somehow thought appropriating employee personal phones was a good idea. Now we can't login to certain internal apps without a mobile device because Okta needs one time password/accepting push notification. And the otp/push notification should necessarily happen on a mobile device. Given that company hasn't provided any mobil…

Post by phjesusthatguy3 » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 11:30 PM UTC

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I promise I won't pass along FUD

too late

Post by joering2 » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 12:05 AM UTC

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I don't know what country you reside, but in USA you are innocent until you are proven guilty. Prove of guilt is on the prosecution side, I don't have to prove I'm innocent. This and 5th amendment works magic against being wrongly accused; it also is indeed a deterrent to "carrier prosecutors" from trying to obtain prosecution via a good-old soviet style type of investigations: "give me a man, I give you a paragraph"…

Umm, kemiller2002 perfectly described the justice system of the good ole US of A. Once a prosecutor wants to get you, they stack all kinds of charges together to take your 1 year crime and make it a total of 10 years in prison, so you'll take a deal that gets you back to the original. At the Federal level, the conviction rate is 93%. Even if you are innocent, you can still be convicted. > Edit: don't break the laws w…

Post by kube-system » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 3:47 AM UTC

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> If my company needs me to be available beyond my 9-5 workday, they can pay for it. If you're salaried then they are paying you for it based on the job requirements, it's part of the job and one of the things that separates hourly employees from salaried ones. Unless you're talking about the cost of your cell plan or device? But even then, a lot of companies will pay for your plan and subsidize part/all of your devi…

No they are _not_. Salary is for 40 hours a week, +/- 5 hours depending on temporary circumstances. Salary is not 40 hours working + 128 hours on call per week.