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What's Deoxyribonucleotide in Sign Language?

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Re: What's Deoxyribonucleotide in Sign Language?

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Post by jbverschoor »

jbverschoor wrote: post #32
_nalply wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because there is a difference between "deaf" and "Deaf". The capitalized word is meant to highlight the cultural and social parts of living in a community with other Deaf people. You also would not write American in the lower case. Being "deaf" is about the handicap, about the loss of hearing and other problems. Being "Deaf" is about being a member of a community, about the keen visual sense, about communicating in a…

So there are Geeks, Nerds, Programmers now too? Why not capitalize every Noun like in German

Same reasons as the lgbt pronouns. It’s confusing and distracting, that’s all.

+it’s almost 100 degrees here

Re: What's Deoxyribonucleotide in Sign Language?

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Post by _nalply »

mabbo wrote: post #30
_nalply wrote: post #28

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I am Deaf myself and my Signed Language (Swiss German Sign Language) is special, so I don't know whether my experience is generalizable. It is very possible to agree upon a language with your interpreters and colleagues who are also Deaf. So you create something not official but what works for you and your situation. This approach often works fine for me: try to convey the meaning into movement and dynamics. Signed L…

I studied American Sign Language for 3 years in University (more of a drinking club with credits than anything else). We were taught that a lot of signed language is like this- that signs can be invented as needed and agreed upon and that's just a normal part of what makes Signed languages cool. As a result, it was expected that if we traveled a few hundred km in any direction, the local signs might be dramatically d…

Correct.

Re: What's Deoxyribonucleotide in Sign Language?

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Post by npiht »

scrollaway wrote: post #34
jbverschoor wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So there are Geeks, Nerds, Programmers now too? Why not capitalize every Noun like in German

A question was asked, a response was given. Why do you need to be snarky with the GP?

Because he perceives the reason as being stupid, and so do I.

Re: What's Deoxyribonucleotide in Sign Language?

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Post by diegoperini »

_nalply wrote: post #29
sombremesa wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did you capitalize "Deaf"?

Because there is a difference between "deaf" and "Deaf". The capitalized word is meant to highlight the cultural and social parts of living in a community with other Deaf people. You also would not write American in the lower case. Being "deaf" is about the handicap, about the loss of hearing and other problems. Being "Deaf" is about being a member of a community, about the keen visual sense, about communicating in a…

Can I politely ask you to elaborate what keen visual sense means in this context? Is it a sensory experience or something you become good at due to not being able to hear?

Re: What's Deoxyribonucleotide in Sign Language?

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Post by _nalply »

diegoperini wrote: post #44
_nalply wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because there is a difference between "deaf" and "Deaf". The capitalized word is meant to highlight the cultural and social parts of living in a community with other Deaf people. You also would not write American in the lower case. Being "deaf" is about the handicap, about the loss of hearing and other problems. Being "Deaf" is about being a member of a community, about the keen visual sense, about communicating in a…

Can I politely ask you to elaborate what keen visual sense means in this context? Is it a sensory experience or something you become good at due to not being able to hear?

Yes, of course. Deaf people use their visual sense instead of hearing. Blind people have a keen hearing, this is something similar.

One example: my wife and I realized that we are a lot more able to read the mood of our children by just looking at them than hearing parents. We just "see through" our children.

Re: What's Deoxyribonucleotide in Sign Language?

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Post by scrollaway »

npiht wrote: post #43
scrollaway wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A question was asked, a response was given. Why do you need to be snarky with the GP?

Because he perceives the reason as being stupid, and so do I.

How is a single person responsible for that?

I think the English rule that "I" has to be capitalized is stupid. Do I go off on you for perpetrating such a disgraceful custom?

Re: What's Deoxyribonucleotide in Sign Language?

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Post by AcerbicZero »

fao_ wrote: post #38
AcerbicZero wrote: post #33

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Wow there is so much more there than I realized at first. I probably should have realized that any communication system would have layers, and when you're restricted to a subset of visual signals there would be all sorts of intricacies. The dual-language comment also lines up with a lot of what I've read this morning on the topic, in that many folks who use ASL full time have commented that written English can almost…

> Wow there is so much more there than I realized at first. The eternal cry of the hackernewser upon finding that other subjects as well as computer science exist. (EDIT: To clarify, I'm not intending to dunk on the parent poster specifically, rather call out how many people in this community and in the hacker community continually ignore the fact that, not only do other subjects exist , but they also have a lot of k…

Lol to be fair, I don't know much about computer science either. Also, n-gate does a really good job of calling out the perception you're expanding on in your edit, and is usually fairly funny to boot.

As a bonus, the only thing that seems to be more common than someone on HN appearing out of touch with reality, is someone on HN trying to bring up how often HN appears out of touch. Be the change buddy :)

Re: What's Deoxyribonucleotide in Sign Language?

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Post by frenchyatwork »

fao_ wrote: post #36
frenchyatwork wrote: post #25

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Both Spanish and English have a fair bit of influence from Latin and from languages that were influenced by Latin. A better example would be what the word is in Swahili, or Mandarin.

> Both Spanish and English have a fair bit of influence from Latin and from languages that were influenced by Latin. I think you're missing the point. OP claimed that English is the language of science in most other languages. The parent showed, using an example from Spanish, that the actual language of science in most languages is Latin. It is neither here nor there whether or not the language is latin-derived. And…

Ah, I see your point. I suspect that Swahili's "asidi deoxyribonucleic" is probably an English loan-word, but you're right that I don't know, since I haven't done any real research.

Re: What's Deoxyribonucleotide in Sign Language?

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Post by npiht »

scrollaway wrote: post #46
npiht wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because he perceives the reason as being stupid, and so do I.

How is a single person responsible for that? I think the English rule that "I" has to be capitalized is stupid. Do I go off on you for perpetrating such a disgraceful custom?

I don't understand how you saw his message as attacking the person he was replying to, honestly. He was attacking the trend.

And I wasn't attacking you, either.

Re: What's Deoxyribonucleotide in Sign Language?

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Post by rblatz »

sombremesa wrote: post #27
_nalply wrote: post #26

I am Deaf myself and I studied Bachelor of Law at the Swiss Distance Learning University ( https://distanceuniversity.ch/ ). For the mandatory attendances (six Saturdays a year in Fribourg) I hired two Signed Language interpreters. Ask me anything.

Why did you capitalize "Deaf"?

Since a lot of people are arguing in the other thread I thought it would be good to share a longer form article about this.

https://www.nad.org/resources/american-sign-language/communi...

Additionally in America up until recently the Deaf community was oppressed, told there was something wrong with them, and forced to use a communication system that doesn’t work as well for them. This led to lower education outcomes, depression, and other ills. This led to a strong Deaf culture and identity, so as to not allow the hearing to tell the Deaf that they are somehow damaged or not complete.

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