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How Turkey Purged Its Intellectuals

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Re: How Turkey Purged Its Intellectuals

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Feel free to look to either side for autocrats. Just because Trump has some autocratic tendencies doesn't mean Obama wasn't also quite full of them. As a nation autocrats tend to be the ones that abuse power rather than limit their power to what has traditionally been acceptable.

You can also look to see which presidents support institutions which would seem to allow autocracy to more easily flourish.

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The takeaway for those in the US: To detect nascent authoritarianism, look at who in particular is getting persecuted in academia. Another good heuristic: Look at who's over-serious and who is best wielding ridicule.

Just come out and say what you mean instead of slimy implications. It's obvious you believe in the false narrative that conservatives are somehow being "persecuted" in academia. This is a disengenous lie spread by right wing propaganda networks like fox news from a few cherry-picked examples. And even if it were true, people disagreeing with your position and calling you out on it is not "persecution."

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Feel free to look to either side for autocrats. Just because Trump has some autocratic tendencies doesn't mean Obama wasn't also quite full of them. As a nation autocrats tend to be the ones that abuse power rather than limit their power to what has traditionally been acceptable. You can also look to see which presidents support institutions which would seem to allow autocracy to more easily flourish.

OP said as much: "from both left- and right-wing movements". Trump is currently in power—Obama is irrelevant at the moment.

Re: How Turkey Purged Its Intellectuals

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The takeaway for those in the US: To detect nascent authoritarianism, look at who in particular is getting persecuted in academia. Another good heuristic: Look at who's over-serious and who is best wielding ridicule.

Just come out and say what you mean instead of slimy implications. It's obvious you believe in the false narrative that conservatives are somehow being "persecuted" in academia. This is a disengenous lie spread by right wing propaganda networks like fox news from a few cherry-picked examples. And even if it were true, people disagreeing with your position and calling you out on it is not "persecution."

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Re: How Turkey Purged Its Intellectuals

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The takeaway for those in the US: To detect nascent authoritarianism, look at who in particular is getting persecuted in academia. Another good heuristic: Look at who's over-serious and who is best wielding ridicule.

Right now there are people who have stated criticism of political bias (pro-conservative, conservative-leaning speakers, center-left, etc) that are being punished in the US academic world.

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Re: How Turkey Purged Its Intellectuals

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The takeaway for those in the US: To detect nascent authoritarianism, look at who in particular is getting persecuted in academia. Another good heuristic: Look at who's over-serious and who is best wielding ridicule.

This makes no sense. Why should those be the heuristics we pay attention to?

Re: How Turkey Purged Its Intellectuals

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The takeaway for those in the US: To detect nascent authoritarianism, look at who in particular is getting persecuted in academia. Another good heuristic: Look at who's over-serious and who is best wielding ridicule.

Just come out and say what you mean instead of slimy implications. It's obvious you believe in the false narrative that conservatives are somehow being "persecuted" in academia. This is a disengenous lie spread by right wing propaganda networks like fox news from a few cherry-picked examples. And even if it were true, people disagreeing with your position and calling you out on it is not "persecution."

Andy Ngo, an independent journalist, almost losing his life is hardly a cherry-picked example.
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