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Re: Fork: A fast and friendly Git client for Mac and Windows

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Post by cr0sh »

Ok - I haven't read all the comments here; maybe it's been asked and answered, but I'm going to ask anyhow:

Is there something like this available for Linux? Even if you have to pay for it?

IntelliJ covers most use cases, and I already pay for that, but I have been wanting to move away from it, and I am one of those few who do not like to use the cli much for git, unless there's no other choice (sometimes, that's the case). I honestly don't know why such a tool doesn't seem to exist.

Parts of it do exist (or did - not sure about their active state) - but one tool will have one piece, but lack others; and that holds for every tool I've seen so far. One tool or another will lack that one needed piece - back to the command line for it; sigh.

It is strange, because as a whole, all the pieces seem like they are there - but for some reason, nobody has taken the time to combine them all. Probably for the same reason why I haven't done it myself: It isn't that interesting, I suppose.

Re: Fork: A fast and friendly Git client for Mac and Windows

#112

Post by gregmac »

ceejayoz wrote: post #85
giancarlostoro wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worse yet these are not concrete points. Laws change. Things happen. Worse yet you need a lawyer from the appropriate jurisdictions just to figure out if you are lawfully using the software? At which point if you ignore the license now you are a pirate of sorts.

That applies to any license, doesn't it? Congress could abolish the public domain or ban stuff like the GPL.

IANAL, but I'm fairly sure banning "stuff like the GPL" would mean banning every EULA and software license, as that's really all the GPL is.

Eben Moglen (Free Software Foundation) sums up the differences:

> But most proprietary software companies want more power than copyright alone gives them. These companies say their software is “licensed” to consumers, but the license contains obligations that copyright law knows nothing about. Software you're not allowed to understand, for example, often requires you to agree not to decompile it. Copyright law doesn't prohibit decompilation, the prohibition is just a contract term you agree to as a condition of getting the software when you buy the product under shrink wrap in a store, or accept a “clickwrap license” on line. [..]

> The GPL, on the other hand, subtracts from copyright rather than adding to it. [..] Copyright grants publishers power to forbid users to exercise rights to copy, modify, and distribute that we believe all users should have; the GPL thus relaxes almost all the restrictions of the copyright system. The only thing we absolutely require is that anyone distributing GPL'd works or works made from GPL'd works distribute in turn under GPL. [..]

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/enforcing-gpl.en.html

Re: Fork: A fast and friendly Git client for Mac and Windows

#113

Post by gpderetta »

cr0sh wrote: post #111

Ok - I haven't read all the comments here; maybe it's been asked and answered, but I'm going to ask anyhow: Is there something like this available for Linux? Even if you have to pay for it? IntelliJ covers most use cases, and I already pay for that, but I have been wanting to move away from it, and I am one of those few who do not like to use the cli much for git, unless there's no other choice (sometimes, that's the…

Magit? Although be aware it is a gateway drug into Emacs.

Re: Fork: A fast and friendly Git client for Mac and Windows

#114

Post by cridenour »

MrGilbert wrote: post #104

Hm... Looks nice so far, except for the Google Analytics call upon startup. Would love to see an option to disable it - and you should add a privacy policy, if you keep it in your application. Other then that, it doesn't seem to send anything else.

It looks like you can, under Preferences -> Updates.

Re: Fork: A fast and friendly Git client for Mac and Windows

#115

Post by Godel_unicode »

duchenne wrote: post #105
rsp1984 wrote: post #79

On the plus side I find Fork to be performant and clean. I prefer it over Kraken and Tower and I find it vastly better than SourceTree. I also find it somewhat similar to GitX-dev on the Mac, which is a good thing. On the minus side (and it's a big minus), it's not open source. As a developer of commercial software I basically have to trust the Fork developers not to do anything fishy with all the source code / IP th…

It is very disappointing that in 2019 we still have to rely on trusting a software vendor or reading the app souce code if it is available. That would be great to we have an OS-level system to give fine-grained permissions and restrictions to desktop apps, like on lineageOS?

How would fine grain permissions solve the problem of software doing something fishy with the code you give it access to?

Re: Fork: A fast and friendly Git client for Mac and Windows

#116

Post by t1amat »

vintagedave wrote: post #96
hombre_fatal wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really understand the upside for them to include such toothless yet threatening clauses. It makes them seem a bit juvenile. Like when we had to come up with laws for our make-believe countries for a class project in middle school and we tried to cover our bases with rules like "if you're a bad person doing all bad stuff, you're not allowed to!"

> It makes them seem a bit juvenile. It's also apparently one individual, and non-US. I've seen many clauses like that in European, especially eastern European, software. Sometimes, even in countries like Australia. It's inspecific, but seems pretty clear they're trying to say, "don't use our software for something you shouldn't." They're within their rights to desire that. Would you perhaps want to edit your comment…

It did not seem that they were used by the poster to patronize, they were there to describe a task (creating laws for make-believe countries) that they performed at one stage of their life (middle school).

Re: Fork: A fast and friendly Git client for Mac and Windows

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Post by brassattax »

Godel_unicode wrote: post #115
duchenne wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is very disappointing that in 2019 we still have to rely on trusting a software vendor or reading the app souce code if it is available. That would be great to we have an OS-level system to give fine-grained permissions and restrictions to desktop apps, like on lineageOS?

How would fine grain permissions solve the problem of software doing something fishy with the code you give it access to?

White list for network access?

Re: Fork: A fast and friendly Git client for Mac and Windows

#120

Post by vintagedave »

t1amat wrote: post #116
vintagedave wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It makes them seem a bit juvenile. It's also apparently one individual, and non-US. I've seen many clauses like that in European, especially eastern European, software. Sometimes, even in countries like Australia. It's inspecific, but seems pretty clear they're trying to say, "don't use our software for something you shouldn't." They're within their rights to desire that. Would you perhaps want to edit your comment…

It did not seem that they were used by the poster to patronize, they were there to describe a task (creating laws for make-believe countries) that they performed at one stage of their life (middle school).

Is not a direct comparison between the author and middle school attitudes and conduct and being juvenile extremely patronising? (Almost by definition, given the description 'juvenile', ie youthful or child-like.)

There's conduct and commentary that follows the Hacker News ethos, and there's conduct and commentary that does not. This does not. It is a pity to read it.

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