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Don’t Put Your Work Email on Your Personal Phone

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Re: Don’t Put Your Work Email on Your Personal Phone

#21
This is certainly a very good reason to not put your work account on your personal phone, but my primary reason not to is that it's my device and I pay for the service. If my company needs me to be available beyond my 9-5 workday, they can pay for it.

If there's an emergency, they can always call, but I don't like being "always on".

Re: Don’t Put Your Work Email on Your Personal Phone

#22
Interesting that this was just about spying, when the real reason to keep work email off your phone (imo) is to maintain work life balance. If I can access my work email on my phone, I will access my work email on my phone. Constantly. I'm bad enough with my phone and my personal email.

Everywhere I've worked I've told my manager I turn off work when I leave (unless I'm oncall). I've never had this be a concern, across three large companies.

Re: Don’t Put Your Work Email on Your Personal Phone

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post #15

> you’ll likely be asked to install something called a Mobile Device Management (MDM) profile. Chances are, you’ll blindly accept it. Say WHAT? That's the entire premise of the article. Any sane person who have even a vague idea of what a MDM is will answer with a resounding NO. Is there actually serious companies who ask their employees to install a MDM on their personal phone? The moment you install a MDM on a phon…

A nontechnical person won’t blink an eye. Those are still sane people, they simply don’t understand the threat like we do.

Same reason that recent issue with all the Chrome extensions happens. A lot of people blindly click OK, just like we’ve been trained to do on privacy policies as well.

Re: Don’t Put Your Work Email on Your Personal Phone

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post #15

> you’ll likely be asked to install something called a Mobile Device Management (MDM) profile. Chances are, you’ll blindly accept it. Say WHAT? That's the entire premise of the article. Any sane person who have even a vague idea of what a MDM is will answer with a resounding NO. Is there actually serious companies who ask their employees to install a MDM on their personal phone? The moment you install a MDM on a phon…

> Is there actually serious companies who ask their employees to install a MDM on their personal phone?

Every company that does BYOD?

Re: Don’t Put Your Work Email on Your Personal Phone

#25

At least if your org is on Office365 and doesn't have too restrictive policies, you can get your email over standard IMAP. There also exist some nice man-in-the-middle proxies which pretend to exchange servers that you've implemented the policies they ask for. I've got multiple "work" (one is a volunteering role) office365 exchange accounts on my personal phone, using [ https://sites.google.com/site/bikomobi/exchaine…

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Re: Don’t Put Your Work Email on Your Personal Phone

#27
This "stop and think" warning is very good, but let's be honest, in many roles you can't say "no" anymore. Most companies require a significant subset of employees to use their personal device for work and have corporate accounts active on it.

It may not be true for you personally, but I bet it is for most people who have on-call rotations.

Features like Android's separate profiles are critical. We need similar sandboxing on all platforms. I don't think we can change the 24/7 availability culture, but we can change things from a software side to make it less onerous.

Re: Don’t Put Your Work Email on Your Personal Phone

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post #19

I feel like most/many articles such as this are targeted at large enterprises/organisations. I've never been asked to install anything like MDM on my phone for any company I've worked for if needing to/wanting to view work email on my phone. But then I've never worked for a company who has more than around 25 members of staff.

Company size and industry definitely play a significant role in the roll-out of managed device policies. Some organizations are required to pass specific ISO/IEC standard certifications with regards to their security policies. Managed-devices with remote-wipe capabilities being one such requirement.

Re: Don’t Put Your Work Email on Your Personal Phone

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post #13

I don't believe I ever actually accepted this on my iPhone. But trying to search around I can't find anything about how to actually find out. Does anyone know? I assume Settings >> General >> Profiles, but it is empty so not sure.

If your device is enrolled in MDM, it would be listed there in Profiles. So your device is probably not enrolled in an MDM policy.

Re: Don’t Put Your Work Email on Your Personal Phone

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post #14

Yes, if it's important to your company for you to be able to receive any of their communications wherever you are, they can pay for a phone plus service to give to you for that purpose. Don't let them use your personal phone for that.

But I still don't want to carry two phones. Which is why I only redirect my company phone regular voice calls to the private one when I'm out of office. If it's urgent, call. If it's not, I'll get to it when I'm in the office.

That is totally understandable, and I hope you don't get in trouble when law enforcement comes looking for your personal device that somehow got caught up in their list of devices to look for.
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