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Re: Use plaintext email

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For the convenience of anyone that may consider licensing and language it's written in a relevant part of their choice of software, here's the list of recommended e-mail clients in the submission with licensing and programming language info: - aerc: MIT, Go - alpine: Apache 2.0 (parts 4-clause BSD), C - claws mail: GPLv3, C - Gnus: LGPLv2+, elisp - KMail: GPLv2 (parts GFDLv1.2, parts LGPLv2.1), C++ - mutt: GPLv2, C -…

I would also reccoment Wanderlust [0]: GPLv2+, elisp

[0]: https://github.com/wanderlust/wanderlust

Re: Use plaintext email

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because Sir_Cmpwn just made it. Considering his other e-mail-related website[1], I'd say that's why. [1] https://git-send-email.io/

That's not what Show HN is for. I don't submit my articles that way. It's for things (apps etc.) you can try out. Not for essays.

You can apply the information on this page to configuring your mail client (and should!). It's also intended to serve as a one stop resource for cataloguing plaintext support in most, if not all, mail clients, in the future.

Re: Use plaintext email

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because Sir_Cmpwn just made it. Considering his other e-mail-related website[1], I'd say that's why. [1] https://git-send-email.io/

That's not what Show HN is for. I don't submit my articles that way. It's for things (apps etc.) you can try out. Not for essays.

Yeah, but you're not Sir_Cmpwn. At this point, Sir_Cmpwn is practically a celebrity here with all the perks that this entails.

Re: Use plaintext email

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I was always a strong advocate for plain text emails. Because for many years my mail client was Mutt, I saw everything plain text. Now that clients are graphical, it bothers me to know others might be reading my plain text emails with a "Times New Roman" font, and not a monospaced (as god intended it to be). So, to avoid that, I use HTML on my emails. Yes, it makes them a bit bigger. Yes, they go against my very beli…

Have you thought that others may not want to see your emails as you intended?

Re: Use plaintext email

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post #11

>HTML as a vector for phishing I would disagree, You can make Text-only links look fairly harmless too. The issue is more often that people do not look at all, even in text-mail, what the link points to, not that they can't see it (plus you can hover and the browser still shows the URL once you open it) >Privacy invasion and tracking Only if you use an ancient and outdated client that doesn't block external resources…

One reason I would add is archiving. Having managed some large, archived mailing lists, one of the headaches is dealing with formatted text. Even plaintext can be a pain in this regard (differences between email chain formatting, fixed-width lengths, etc.). HTML is even more troublesome...

Re: Use plaintext email

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The problems with HTML email originate in the days when clients like Outlook would produce horrendous, non-responsive HTML that were basically entire embedded web pages; the idea that the sender should be able to dictate the font of an email is a bit ridiculous, not to mention the layout, and the result was often broken depending on the email client.

Emails aren't web pages, but they do benefit from formatting (bold, italics, links, paragraphs), all of which lead to better emails overall. After all, everyone has their plaintext style (asterisks for emphasis, or maybe underscores, etc.) and HTML formalizes those conventions in a way that has been standard for decades and even centuries if you consider typesetting in general.

I like the idea of HTML email better than I like the implementation. I'd love to see a minimal HTML subset that only included formatting (including paragraphs, indentation and blockquoting), images and links. No tables, no box model, fonts or styling. We can keep full HTML for fancy marketing emails, but letter-form email should be simple and impossible to abuse.

These days, of course, most email is HTML simply because that's the default for almost all email apps (Gmail, Outlook, Spark, Polymail, etc.). It's not true that only marketing emails use HTML, as the author claims.

Re: Use plaintext email

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post #5

Why is this a Show HN? It's just a web page, isn't it?

Probably because the first email client linked is his new plaintext and patch oriented email client aerc?

It actually looks pretty nice and supports maildir, so I might run a backup and point it at mine for a couple days to see how it holds up.

Re: Use plaintext email

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post #25
post #11

>HTML as a vector for phishing I would disagree, You can make Text-only links look fairly harmless too. The issue is more often that people do not look at all, even in text-mail, what the link points to, not that they can't see it (plus you can hover and the browser still shows the URL once you open it) >Privacy invasion and tracking Only if you use an ancient and outdated client that doesn't block external resources…

Does outlook not use microsoft word as the html render now?

Last I know is they use Trident, though it's possible they switched considering that IE is going the way of the Dodo.
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