The Show Horse and the Work Horse

Post by analog31 » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 2:00 AM UTC

benj111 wrote: post #34

dragonwriter wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Expensive nonpractical kitchen remodels are at the top of every list I've seen of projects to avoid when looking to resale value because they usually add less resale value than they cost to do.

The emphasis there is on the expensive though. How many really well laid out kitchens have you been in, where you have adequate prep space, and the fridge, cooker and sink are in sensible positions? Kitchens are generally designed to look nice, not be practical unfortunately.

Post by dsfyu404ed » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 2:18 AM UTC

gronfr1 wrote: post #56

jandrese wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Don't like the aesthetics" is code for "it attracts minorities and the poor." The primary reason they or their direct ancestors moved out of the city in the first place was to get away from "those people".

"It attracts minorities and the poor" is wokespeak for "It drives up the crime rate, lowers the value of the property you're still paying mortgage on, makes it less safe to go out at night, and makes it more likely that your child will accidentally step on a used syringe."

Post by Qworg » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 2:42 AM UTC

nitrogen wrote: post #35

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience most small towns big enough to have any services have a "library" that is comprised of a few rooms in the shared town hall/police/public offices building that is run by some (usually senior citizen) volunteer(s) and has a fairly poor collection of books but can get anything you want on loan as long as you don't need it that day. If they don't have a library they probably have some other "nice to have…

The parent comment would work better without (or rewording) the remark on bias. I have lived in rural, suburban, and dense urban areas in my life (currently high density urban), and there is a bias on HN toward the idea that rural communities are unsustainable on their own and mere leeches on the city dwellers. That's likely true in some places, but not universally. Sustainable rural communities have exports of resou…

Post by ImaCake » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 3:31 AM UTC

benj111 wrote: post #16

burlesona wrote: post #2

Not emphasized in Johnny’s post, there’s also a ton of neighborhood pushback against flea markets and such in many communities. Basically the wealthier folks don’t like the aesthetics of these things, and will argue that they’re a nuisance or crime-magnets or whatever, a thin veneer over the discomfort they have with anything that draws a low income crowd. You’ll see things like the “Sunday Farmers Market” that close…

"Basically the wealthier folks don’t like the aesthetics" That's not inherent though. A nice French brocante sale basically sells tat, but its nice and acceptable. I don't think its impossible that this flea market could become a hipster hang out. One of the eateries starts making a name for itself, and people start seeking it out. It isn't just poor people that want a functioning high st. Edit: Spelling

Post by closeparen » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 4:27 AM UTC

lonelappde wrote: post #39

lifeisstillgood wrote: post #30

What is being described here is a working multi-functional town centre - a place to walk to, make necessary purchases and hang out and even eat out. We know how to build more and more of these "town centres" - we used to find them at the centre of almost all towns. The problem is it's not something governments can do or force - it's something they allow, and don't strangle. It's waaaaay harder. It is what evolves nat…

If state governments made suburbs pay their bills and externalities out of current accounts instead of mortgaging the future and cutting up and poisoning city residents with highways, the invisible hand of free market economics would push people to live together in cities if they want to keep their highly materialistic lifestyles. As it is, people make short term optimal, long term bankrupt, and tragedy of the common…