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My 300 Mile Lyft Ride From Chicago to Bradford

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Re: My 300 Mile Lyft Ride From Chicago to Bradford

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post #81

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And with that you most likely lose any sort of protection/insurance Lyft gives you.

What protection/insurance?

Uber rides where I live are covered by Uber's commercial insurance policy: https://uber.app.box.com/s/un77qysn3pl8v99i4r14k7jpw9ibm11i

Re: My 300 Mile Lyft Ride From Chicago to Bradford

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post #16

I followed this as it unfolded on his Twitter account ( https://twitter.com/scalzi ). He has a way of taking some small experience or observation and turning it into a great little story or one-liner. He's written some good sci-fi, too. Worth following.

Also worth checking out: the comment from "toyko uber story" on an insane Black Car Uber ride in Japan (scroll down, it's currently 6th from the bottom).

Re: My 300 Mile Lyft Ride From Chicago to Bradford

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Since the driver would have had to dead head back to Chicago, if his expenses were a not unreasonable 0.50 cents per mile, the only profit the driver made was the tip.

And the experience. He considered it an adventure. Hell, I would drive John Scalzi for free. He's one of my favorite authors. John--if you ever make it out to Oahu, I'll be your personal chauffeur.

Re: My 300 Mile Lyft Ride From Chicago to Bradford

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post #24

This is why we need a train system with funding parity to the highway and airport systems. There should be trains leaving constantly, at most every 10 minutes, from Chicago to the east, and frequent, semihourly, trains between neighboring cities along the way. Even if the author could rent a car, having to drive 300 miles is astounding waste of time and mental energy.

There is nothing, except Chicago’s suburbs, within about 300 miles of Chicago in every direction.

Also, our train system has more than funding parity with roads. Road spending is about $175 billion per year, about half of which isn’t recovered from use fees, for 5 trillion passenger miles. That’s about $0.02 per mile subsidy. Amtrak’s capital expenditures is about $900 million per year, which comes directly from Congress. (Ticket revenue only goes to operating costs.) that’s about $0.13 per passenger mile.

For a guy driving 300 miles, that cost the government $6.00 in road construction and maintenance. For the guy to train that same distance costs the government $39.

Re: My 300 Mile Lyft Ride From Chicago to Bradford

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post #29

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I can’t imagine a train leaving every 10 minutes could ever be cost effective. There just aren’t that many people who want to do that trip (8 hours?) when you could do it in 2 hours by plane.

As the crow flies, Chicago to New York is similar to Beijing to Shanghai, which is a long-ish high-speed-rail journey of 4.5 hours. If you have to fight lots of traffic to get to the airport that's not too bad. Probably not enough to drive demand for every ten minutes. The real value of such a network would be an intermediate trip. If Cleveland or Pittsburgh are both two hours away from New York and Chicago and the t…

LGA to ORD is 3 million passengers per year. Beijing to Shanghai is 7 million by air, plus 180 million by train (including intermediate stops). Total US air travel between all destinations is only 750 million per year. The ability of the Chinese to recoup their capital investment through ridership is massive compared to what you could expect in the US.

Re: My 300 Mile Lyft Ride From Chicago to Bradford

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t imagine a train leaving every 10 minutes could ever be cost effective. There just aren’t that many people who want to do that trip (8 hours?) when you could do it in 2 hours by plane.

As the crow flies, Chicago to New York is similar to Beijing to Shanghai, which is a long-ish high-speed-rail journey of 4.5 hours. If you have to fight lots of traffic to get to the airport that's not too bad. Probably not enough to drive demand for every ten minutes. The real value of such a network would be an intermediate trip. If Cleveland or Pittsburgh are both two hours away from New York and Chicago and the t…

Note that even with that exceptional HSR, most fly between Beijing and Shanghai. And that's with the ridiculous Chinese rules that prevent you from using your phone during all flights. And Chicago/New York would be more like 5.5 hours.

Re: My 300 Mile Lyft Ride From Chicago to Bradford

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post #42

This is a fun story—but he should've just booked a round-trip rental car, and dropped it off in Dayton anyway. I've done this a bunch of times, and all they'll do is charge you the one-way rate and grumble a bit... Better to ask forgiveness than permission.

What's the benefit in lying to them about your intentions? Is it just because nobody wants to rent you a car one way in the first place?

My (very limited and probably outdated) understanding of the rental car industry is that the locations are franchises and the cars are owned by the franchise. If you rent a car round trip and leave it in some other city they have to deal with getting it back.

Re: My 300 Mile Lyft Ride From Chicago to Bradford

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post #95
post #24

This is why we need a train system with funding parity to the highway and airport systems. There should be trains leaving constantly, at most every 10 minutes, from Chicago to the east, and frequent, semihourly, trains between neighboring cities along the way. Even if the author could rent a car, having to drive 300 miles is astounding waste of time and mental energy.

There is nothing, except Chicago’s suburbs, within about 300 miles of Chicago in every direction. Also, our train system has more than funding parity with roads. Road spending is about $175 billion per year, about half of which isn’t recovered from use fees, for 5 trillion passenger miles. That’s about $0.02 per mile subsidy. Amtrak’s capital expenditures is about $900 million per year, which comes directly from Cong…

You mean besides Milwaukee, Madison, Grand Rapids, Indianapolis, Cedar Rapids, St Louis, Cincinatti and Toledo?

That's more people than Chicago itself.

If you take Chicagoland as an endpoint and not the city boundaries, Des Moines is also within 300 miles.

Transcontinental high speed rail is, I agree strongly with your subtextual argument, a pipe dream. But regional HSR in the midwest would make a lot of sense.

Re: My 300 Mile Lyft Ride From Chicago to Bradford

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post #24

This is why we need a train system with funding parity to the highway and airport systems. There should be trains leaving constantly, at most every 10 minutes, from Chicago to the east, and frequent, semihourly, trains between neighboring cities along the way. Even if the author could rent a car, having to drive 300 miles is astounding waste of time and mental energy.

No, the train system should be reorganized. Having multiple stops slows down travel. If Amtrak used shorter trains with a direct route, and all freight trains yielded to passenger trains, people will use more trains.

Otherwise any train trip that takes over eight hours is unpalatable, no matter how bad airport security becomes.

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