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Never-Googlers: Web users take the ultimate step to guard their data

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Re: Never-Googlers: Web users take the ultimate step to guard their data

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" In the small South Carolina town of Newberry, Bob's Red Mill muesli cereal is hard to come by. That presents a challenge for resident Gregory Kelly, who can't get enough of the stuff. He'd rather not truck the 40 miles or so to Columbia to stock up on it, but he's also loath to buy it from the company's website, which he says is riddled with tracking software from Google" Somebody get this man a Firefox Privacy Tab

They still get your ip address

VPN

Re: Never-Googlers: Web users take the ultimate step to guard their data

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" In the small South Carolina town of Newberry, Bob's Red Mill muesli cereal is hard to come by. That presents a challenge for resident Gregory Kelly, who can't get enough of the stuff. He'd rather not truck the 40 miles or so to Columbia to stock up on it, but he's also loath to buy it from the company's website, which he says is riddled with tracking software from Google" Somebody get this man a Firefox Privacy Tab

They still get your ip address

Not if you get a VPN. Even though you should pay for it, it is till cheaper than traveling 40 miles in a truck.

Re: Never-Googlers: Web users take the ultimate step to guard their data

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They still get your ip address

Not if you get a VPN. Even though you should pay for it, it is till cheaper than traveling 40 miles in a truck.

Is it though? It is often arou d $3-4 a month. If you go there once a month I'm not sure it's worth it

Re: Never-Googlers: Web users take the ultimate step to guard their data

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How does this argument come up every time? If I can't have absolute privacy, I should just give up? The same way I'd love to give up every last bit of dependence on Google, I'd love to get decentralized fintech. But the popular one is a bad word that starts with B and I fear has spoiled the well. (Though it's been interesting traveling through Europe and seeing Bitcoin signs all over Prague, the ticket machine offeri…

No but there's a good argument there in terms of priorities. What is more likely to impact you negatively: Google building an internal profile based on your information and targeting ads based on it or your card information being stolen from insecure smaller vendors? Obviously those 2 choices are picked arbitrarily but they may explain why the OP chose to prefer the former over the latter. I would think every time we…

Google is worse without question. Having your card number stolen is a minor inconvenience whose danger is inflated by services offering to protect you from it. Happened to me once, they charged $1500 before my credit union called me. I had to spend a total of an hour on the phone with a few different people, and the money was credited back to my account within 48 hours. This is with a debit card, which are constantly subject to FUD on this issue from the vendors of credit cards.

Re: Never-Googlers: Web users take the ultimate step to guard their data

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> You are invalidly generalizing. I try to eliminate all contact I have with the tech giants, and I do not have a credit card, I am at a privacy respecting bank (GLS Gemeinschaftsbank), and I use cash. You do you, but I'm happy to get free airline tickets and other perks from using my credit card at the expense of....... having someone else know I bought a mechanical keyboard last month? I respect your choice but I h…

Maybe at the expense of buying that mechanical keyboard you thought you really wanted but actually you ended up purchasing because of continued, subtle advertising?

Assuming you have the income to support your spending habits, I don't see this as much of a risk? Occasionally buying the wrong thing for whatever mistaken reason is a fact of life. Live and learn.

I would be more worried about scams, bad investments, bigger purchases, or a pattern of impulse buying.

Re: Never-Googlers: Web users take the ultimate step to guard their data

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Cash tolls cost more. You either need people stationed to collect the toll or send people every so often to collect the tolls from the machines. The machines would also need more maintenance than the camera or EasyPass system because they're mechanical. You also need the camera system regardless in case someone drives through without paying or simply doesn't have cash on hand. Plus, people will need exact change or h…

Maybe. But the lack of cash tolls also enables the Surveillance State. So once again, we're trading privacy and liberty for what amounts to pocket lint. I think we have closure on the American experiment. Laziness/convenience trumps anything else.

I mean the person in the booth could press a button to take a picture or write down the license plate every time someone goes through...

Re: Never-Googlers: Web users take the ultimate step to guard their data

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Bonus work: Make sure none of your friends upload a photo with you in it, which basically means they don't take your photo with an Android phone. If somehow your picture does get onto an Android phone, somehow make sure you aren't labeled.

Better: Download a fuckload of https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/ photos, create social media accounts under your name, and bloat the accounts with these photos while tagging yourself.

All that work just to have your misinformation trivially filtered out.

Re: Never-Googlers: Web users take the ultimate step to guard their data

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Not if you get a VPN. Even though you should pay for it, it is till cheaper than traveling 40 miles in a truck.

Is it though? It is often arou d $3-4 a month. If you go there once a month I'm not sure it's worth it

The truck would have to get 50-60 miles to the gallon to even begin to be competitive with a VPN.

Re: Never-Googlers: Web users take the ultimate step to guard their data

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In my experience, the difficulty is spending the time and energy to set these things up for family who might not be as willing to stray from the path of least resistance.

That's why the best choice is just to recommend your family get an iPhone. The default/least resistant path is far more private.

Apple are harvesting just as much data, they're just being less evil with it... For now.

Re: Never-Googlers: Web users take the ultimate step to guard their data

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Cash tolls cost more. You either need people stationed to collect the toll or send people every so often to collect the tolls from the machines. The machines would also need more maintenance than the camera or EasyPass system because they're mechanical. You also need the camera system regardless in case someone drives through without paying or simply doesn't have cash on hand. Plus, people will need exact change or h…

Maybe. But the lack of cash tolls also enables the Surveillance State. So once again, we're trading privacy and liberty for what amounts to pocket lint. I think we have closure on the American experiment. Laziness/convenience trumps anything else.

Why do they need toll booths to add cameras?

What prevents the surveillance state from just putting some cameras on the highway?

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