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Mauritius Leaks exposes tiny tax haven's role in vast offshore system

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Re: Mauritius Leaks exposes tiny tax haven's role in vast offshore system

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

By that reasoning, every double taxation treaty that contains some sort of exemption is exploitative. The Mauritian treaty does not contain any abnormal clauses that are uncommon in intra EU treaties and for example, most US-EU treaties. Double taxation treaties are a way to incentivise people to invest in a specific country. Generally both countries exempt (or promise to partially exempt) booked income from the othe…

> By that reasoning, every double taxation treaty that contains some sort of exemption is exploitative. If they are treaties with tax havens, places used purposefully for those reasons, then yes, they are.

> If they are treaties with tax havens, places used purposefully for those reasons

"Tax haven" is an ambiguous term. Double taxation treaties exist so investments aren't taxed twice, once at the origin and again at the destination. The Indian-Mauritian treaty mostly covers capital gains, and in that way is similar to most such treaties.

The principal benefit of jurisdictions like Mauritius, the Cayman Islands, Delaware or Singapore is less to reduce taxes than to simplify them. Indian taxes are wonky and volatile. Indian courts are slow and expensive. Going through Mauritius lets an international investor finance projects in India while abstracting away a lot of cruft.

Re: Mauritius Leaks exposes tiny tax haven's role in vast offshore system

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ICIJ should consider an alternative title such as

"Hackers reveal client data for Bermuda based law firm and we bought in on Empire for .25 BTC"

"Save on taxes by using this little known trick!"

"Mauritius legislature competitive in global trade"

"Africa single market growing towards being a wild success, thanks to Mauritius"

they choose to use words like "siphon", OP chose to use words like "exposes"

they could just as benignly report a "trade imbalance" such as when basically any G7 country combination is being discussed

Re: Mauritius Leaks exposes tiny tax haven's role in vast offshore system

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A lot of the content here seems to be justifying breaching a law firm's security and disclosing sensitive attorney-client privileged information. Unlike some of the prior disclosures, there doesn't seem to be any allegation that the tax haven was being used for money laundering purposes (cf. Panama Papers), but just that the country itself was somehow acting unfairly to less developed jurisdictions. In addition to some of the sentiment below that the benefits in the form of capital inflows of such stabilizing treaties may exceed their costs in the form of top-line cap gains tax, etc., this distinction is striking.

It goes so far as to call out the specifics of an investment by the founder of Live Aid, without accusing him of doing anything illegal or, arguably, immoral.

While there is definitely educational benefit to understanding the potential effects of these sorts of treaties, at what point do these leaks cease to be newsworthy and begin to be gossip?

Re: Mauritius Leaks exposes tiny tax haven's role in vast offshore system

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post #25

A lot of the content here seems to be justifying breaching a law firm's security and disclosing sensitive attorney-client privileged information. Unlike some of the prior disclosures, there doesn't seem to be any allegation that the tax haven was being used for money laundering purposes (cf. Panama Papers), but just that the country itself was somehow acting unfairly to less developed jurisdictions. In addition to so…

Sometimes we need to look at the second-order effects of something to decide whether it is moral or not.

Re: Mauritius Leaks exposes tiny tax haven's role in vast offshore system

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post #25

A lot of the content here seems to be justifying breaching a law firm's security and disclosing sensitive attorney-client privileged information. Unlike some of the prior disclosures, there doesn't seem to be any allegation that the tax haven was being used for money laundering purposes (cf. Panama Papers), but just that the country itself was somehow acting unfairly to less developed jurisdictions. In addition to so…

A lot of content here is justifying avoiding taxation on the grounds that it's questionably legal and even arguing that it's not necessarily immoral.

Re: Mauritius Leaks exposes tiny tax haven's role in vast offshore system

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a pain to India. It is not a pain to the politicians though.

> It is a pain to India Do we have evidence of this? A lot of investment into India would not occur without a stable legal and tax environment on which to stage it. Traditionally, those have been Singapore and Mauritius.

Are we sure that it's the stability of Mauritius which is the sought after quality here? That seems a little euphemistic.

Not that it's an unstable nation, all things considered, but I feel like it goes without saying that these companies and individuals are almost definitely solving for minimal tax rather than maximal "stability".

From the article, quoted from a leaked email: This is primarily being done to ensure the Druva restructure does not result in it becoming taxable.

Re: Mauritius Leaks exposes tiny tax haven's role in vast offshore system

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African politicians steal taxes, I am from South Africa and see the corruption first hand. Mauritius is a well run country unlike most of Africa, makes sense to use it as a base to do business in Africa

Politicians stealing money isn't solely an African phenomenon, and in many "first world" countries the lower and middle classes suffer due to lobbying which politicians can use to enrich themselves and their cronies.

Re: Mauritius Leaks exposes tiny tax haven's role in vast offshore system

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African politicians steal taxes, I am from South Africa and see the corruption first hand. Mauritius is a well run country unlike most of Africa, makes sense to use it as a base to do business in Africa

Ugandan here: when I read this story, I admit this was exactly what came to mind. Of course the system is dodgy if you can leverage Mauritius to get around taxes but the vast majority of taxes in Africa is just padding on a politicians bank account.
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