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How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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What is the injustice here?

Some basic philosophical disagreements revolve around this. One mans injustice is another's evolutionary survival of the fittest where patience, planning, and low time preference are strongly rewarded by the system. One mans injustice is lack of equality of opportunity, another's is lack of equality of outcome. There's a quote often falsely attributed to John Wayne "Life is hard; it’s harder when you’re stupid". Some…

The John Wayne quote is a slightly different thing. I don't think its particularly controversial to suggest that stupidity should not be rewarded as well as the absence of that stupidity (calling it punishment may turn some people off, even if it means the same thing).

The Vimes example is about the fact that being poor to start with is more expensive in its own right.

Vimes does not make a stupid decision not to buy the expensive boots, they are simply more than he can afford in any reasonable period.

There is another saying "making your first million is hard, making your second million is inevitable"

Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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What a bunch of BS. The author is ignoring elephant in the room - cost of honestly paid labor and cost of good quality materials. You cant make quality things using "slave" labor (made in "3rd world countries" for a few cents/buck an hour). Good stuff is a product of love. There is no love in made in china goods. The bottom line with clothing these days is that most of it is made using "slave" underpaid labor and mor…

There is no reason that quality shoes cannot be built in countries with poor labor conditions. It’s just that low labor costs allow for selection of cheaper materials and low pay managers are tempted to cut corners on trivial items.

Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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In high school during the summers I worked as a seamstress making vastly overpriced custom curtains for an interior designer. I learned a quick & dirty method of judging the quality of just about anything made of fabric: look at the fabric grain relative to the primary vertical seams (pant legs, jacket sleeve, shirt torso). The angle at which a piece of fabric is cut can drastically change the shape/fit of the item b…

Do you have any images that do a side-by-side comparison? Or do you have to just go see for yourself?

Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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In a previous life when I wore suits to work on a frequent basis, I got interested in this topic and spent way too much time learning about it. I now have a closet full of quality clothes that I wear much less frequently, but, for whatever it's worth, they'll last me the rest of my life. There's a lot of good info in this article, but there's also a lot more beyond it. For example, it mentions (accurately) that the f…

Honestly if you made videos or blog posts that explain how to figure out high-quality clothes, I would immediately subscribe.

The blog post that's posted here on HN is short on images & video, which I feel like is really necessary here. A visual aid would be extremely helpful.

Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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What is the injustice here?

The rich get richer and the poor only get poorer. It's the principle as old as the bible, and the Vimes part simply puts it into very accessible terms that everyone can identify with.

> the poor only get poorer

This is demonstrably, dramatically false.

"The headline could be "The number of people in extreme poverty fell by 130,000 since yesterday” and they wouldn’t have this headline once, but every single day since 1990, since, on average, there were 130,000 people fewer in extreme poverty every day." https://ourworldindata.org/a-history-of-global-living-condit...

Both the quality and duration of life for "the poor" have increased dramatically over the last decades and centuries. https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy-globally

For a "real-time" visualization, see https://worldpoverty.io/index.html

We aren't doing as well as we'd like to be, but the world is making dramatic progress.

Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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I find this article and it's premise interesting, mainly because quality actually isn't my primary metric when buying clothes. I'm a raving fan of Uniqlo. I love that they offer simple, unbranded merchandise and that they're conveniently situated in most of the major cities that I frequent. I split my time between the US and Australia - and a few other places in between - and the most important thing for me is replac…

Uniqlo has strange quality difference between countries. Uniqlo in any Japan city can boast decent quality items for reasonable prices, but if we take Singapore for example, most items are much lower quality for exorbitant price.

I wonder if they practise binning, the same way the chip and hard disk makers do.

I'm a Singapore resident and have bought Uniqlo from many countries, and I personally think it might be more of the material and the product line. Their jeans (even the selvage ones) and socks tend to blow out pretty quickly, but their linen clothes and Airism products are good.

Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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For decades style has generally trended toward informal so I'd be interested in an article focusing on informal and sportswear. I own formal clothes, smart casual, business casual, but as trends continue I'll probably never wear any of that stuff again, other than maybe some smart casual on dates with my wife. Lots of people spend all their time at work and home looking like they're dressed for a picnic at the park o…

That article addresses most styles of clothing. It is about quality, not fashion. And assessing the quality of cotton fibers and stitches can be done on both T-Shirts and fancy dresses.

What may be lacking is a section on printed garments.

Sportswear is another matter. These are technical clothes, designed for performance, with characteristics that depends on the particular sport. You won't use the same clothes for mountaineering and for weightlifting at the gym.

For day to day wearing, my preferences goes to light hiking clothes. They tend to be:

- Comfortable

- Reasonably durable

- Quick drying

- Breathable and/or waterproof

- Not too flashy, acceptable in most settings

- With pockets, often with zippers

- Low maintenance, somewhat stain and dirt resistant

Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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Not me! I’ll never go to one and have it in my will that there won’t be one when I pass.

Your Earthly remains will be disposed of, that's your funeral, the form of yours may differ to others. May I ask why you'll "never go to one", and perhaps how old you are?

I'm 35. Just not interested.

Don't have a big family and the ones that are alive live far away. I'm not going to waste my time to travel for a funeral. Not many friends either to be honest.

And as for myself, I don't think having the crematorium dispose of my cremains counts as a funeral but whatever.

Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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> We need to know all the details, including the weave? You don't. In fact I'd argue that having access to the details makes you more likely to both choose the wrong garment and rationalize that wrong choice. > For someone that sweats a lot in hot & humid climates, why does one white cotton shirt show the sweat, and another doesn't? Branch one of this answer includes all kinds of details about thread count, thread le…

> don't wear cotton in hot & humid climates I seriously had to LOL at this. When I first moved to Japan, I was clueless. I live in a particularly hot and sunny part of Japan. During the rainy season, we sometimes have rain every day for a month (like this year :-P). It took having my clothes literally rot on the line before I understood this point. My predecessor (government program rotates foreigners to teach Englis…

> I'd give one other small piece of advice: buy clothes in areas that are famous for the weather you want to feel good in.

For a summer commute from SF to Sacramento I'll bring a waxed cotton raincoat. After all, that's what all the people wear in that city that is famous for rain.

Or I can take a deep breath, admit to myself that I'm not a domain expert, and forge a relationship with someone who is.

This expert will use clues from the relationship to help me choose a garment. Maybe they find out I'm generally never in the elements for greater than 5 minutes. So they show me this dinky little windbreaker that is so light it can actually fit in my pocket. They explain how it isn't actually waterproof but it has a treatment that makes water bead off, and the ease of shaking it off and small size might be a decent tradeoff given my situation.

So now I'm carrying vastly less weight with a useful garment. I never would have chosen it on my own because my non-expert brain fixated on the word "waterproof" as if it were a boolean. Meanwhile, the domain expert measured the time it takes for water to penetrate the seams and found it plenty long enough to meet my needs.

> Anybody wants a nice, not-bulky, warm winter coat: buy it in Canada.

The current trailblazer is almost certainly Patagonia's micro puff jacket which uses a synthetic fill that AFAICT reaches the warmth-to-weight ratio of down. (Added potential benefit that the synthetic fill would continue to insulate if wet while down won't.)

Patagonia is a U.S. company, so you missed out on the latest greatest by choosing based on country conditions.

I'm being super finicky, and of course there are Canadian-made non-bulky winter jackets. But this thread started with someone wearing cotton in the summer heat. Such a person can just as easily buy a cotton hoody in Canada.

Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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https://www.loow.com Wool garments, from a small company set up by a Danish ex Jaeger Corps who was aghast with the quality (or lack thereof) of clothes out there when he returned to civil life. I don't even remember how I got in touch with them, but I was looking for robust, functional yet stylish clothes I could both wear everyday and do skateboarding with. I just remember buying one for the heck of it early in the…

Thanks for this tip! I generally love my few woollen garments but without a good source where to get some everyday wear. I'm wondering how it'd work with underwear though, as that's probably something one might to wash after each use regardless of material.

I got a box of boxers and they're quite nice. I do wash them after every use, which makes sense. Got a bunch of socks too, they're great, especially since I'm prone to sweating in that area. They do start to show some wear after two years, which is exceptional given the abuse I put them through with skateboarding.
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