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Short Sellers are a massive plague on the market, short selling should be banned in general
That's not a very libertarian position to take.
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Less overvalued works too, if you prefer. I take it you're not interested in addressing my actual argument given you've deflected twice.
Ford is perhaps the most undervalued company on the stock market, according to a bunch of metrics, one of which you've pointed out. So saying that Tesla is overvalued compared to Ford is like saying "water is wet". By that measure all 499 of the other companies on the S&P 500 are also overvalued. I haven't addressed most of your arguments because they're both not wrong and irrelevant. The original point I was refutin…
But the EV of Ford including FFS also offers no insight in to whether Tesla is overvalued. Not even a tiny bit.
If we can agree on that, then we're arguing here for no reason.
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I'm not speciffically referring to the "industry out to get him" narrative. Perhaps there is a reason for the industry not to like him since he's competition, but I dont believe there is any organized campaign. What I was referring to was that he has made a name in the general public and is not politically correct nor "tamed". Obviously he's going to get plenty of negative attention.
He's also a prick. The whole I'm not tame or PC, is a lame and tired excuse. FWIW The linked tweet did make that claim, so hopefully I made that clear.
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Free markets work better than controlled markets as history has shown.
the Stock market is VERY far from a free market
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He's also a prick. The whole I'm not tame or PC, is a lame and tired excuse. FWIW The linked tweet did make that claim, so hopefully I made that clear.
The way you argument doesn't really honor you.
Ironically, you resort to personal attacks instead of making an argument based on merits. It's perfectly fair to point out that the "I'm not PC or tame" line is frequently used by people that are just jerks to justify jerk behavior. I don't think calling him a prick is unwarrented given the behavior.
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I don't know what you're talking about, Elon Musk gets flack for being a jerk, and all the questionable stuff he's done. This narrative that big business is out to get him (eg. that tweet) needs to die.
I'm not speciffically referring to the "industry out to get him" narrative. Perhaps there is a reason for the industry not to like him since he's competition, but I dont believe there is any organized campaign. What I was referring to was that he has made a name in the general public and is not politically correct nor "tamed". Obviously he's going to get plenty of negative attention.
You're commenting on a man who accused a cave rescuer of being a pedophile after he criticised mr Musk's brain-dead proposal to rescue the stranded kids.
The problem does not lie on strawmen such as this silly idea tha the industry does not like him.
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Actually the criticism that Musk gets is a result of things like: - Calling someone's boss and threatening a lawsuit to make him take down critical writings on Twitter and Seeking Alpha ( https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2018/07/27/1532692760000/Je-suis... ) - Threatening to "nuke" a departing employee who had returned to Tesla HQ to collect some personal belongings ( https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-05/tes…
This is all true. But how does it compare to companies building machines that are emitting toxic gas to billions of people and destroying the Earth’s climate? There’s a good reason why mainstream media doesn’t talk about it as seriously as it should be doing.
Wattaboutism does not address the man's problems, including all the problems he brings onto himself, the company he runs, and its investors.
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The way you argument doesn't really honor you.
I don't agree. I think you're making terrible excuses for bad behavior, that shouldn't be accepted under any circumstances. Ironically, you resort to personal attacks instead of making an argument based on merits. It's perfectly fair to point out that the "I'm not PC or tame" line is frequently used by people that are just jerks to justify jerk behavior. I don't think calling him a prick is unwarrented given the beha…
Although I don't have the full list of what Elon has done wrong then I'm pretty sure that there is plenty of way more ugly stuff going on which we don't even know about, but by people who don't bring any value to the world. And you are just randomly angry because the current guy at hand is public with his mistakes, you can see them, and then you go and argue about it on the internet.
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Disagree that short-sellers somehow get to be grouped with whistleblowers. That’s whitewashing them. They are foreign actors with literally a negative stake and deserve to be treated as adversaries.
> adversaries They are literally paying you , the Tesla long/holder, for the privilege of borrowing your shares or buying options that you are selling. If you own shares and believe in the company, you should be absolutely in love with short sellers because their activities net you money. Nothing a short seller can do will destroying a financially secure, sound company. Nothing . Meanwhile you get to collect interest…