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How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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Post by benj111 »

ValentineC wrote: post #80
buttikin wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't have a sewing machine, and you're interested in repairing/tailoring your own clothes (and most importantly you have the time) it's well worth looking into historic sewing methods. Hand sewing can be just as strong if not stronger than machine sewing, it just takes the right techniques and the time and patience to sit there and do it. I've found the two most useful stitches I've picked up are the felling…

> Proper denim jeans are quite hard to mend though even if you know what you're doing, especially if you've worn through/blown out the inner thigh region. Wherever you've sewn will become a new point of stress on the denim and it is likely to just pull away the weave of the fabric from that point. This happens to every pair of mine, and is always the reason I am forced to retire them. Do you think it'll help if I rei…

Now I always wear out the knees.

Perhaps we could set up an exchange where we swap jeans for 'wear levelling'.

Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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Post by kortilla »

killjoywashere wrote: post #49
Fricken wrote: post #45

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I've got 2 jackets right now with broken zippers. I just checked, they're both YKK zippers, and one of those failing zippers is the replacement zipper for a previous YKK zipper that failed. All 3 are different types of YKK brand zipper.

It is almost inevitable that the largest manufacturer has the largest number of failures. But your anecdote gives me no sense of their failure rate, and certainly tells me nothing about their failure rate in the context of other manufacturer failure rates.

3 zippers for a single person is really high, even if they are the largest manufacturer.

Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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Post by benj111 »

kingludite wrote: post #50

I get what the article is getting at, its lovely for what it is trying to do. my take: Cloths are what people you meet look at. They create a mood in the spectator and leave an impression of who you are. First you have to figure out who you are, who you use to be and who you want to become. Who are the people you meet? they use to be what? who do you want them to be? After doing that you pick cloths that compliment t…

"a lederhose"

Would it not still be lederhosen? Like trousers and not trouser.

Although there is a place called Lederhose, so my etymology might be wrong, but Google isnt giving any trouser based results for Lederhose.

Disclaimer, my German is nearly non existent.

Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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Post by mattlondon »

cli wrote: post #54
elliekelly wrote: post #24

In high school during the summers I worked as a seamstress making vastly overpriced custom curtains for an interior designer. I learned a quick & dirty method of judging the quality of just about anything made of fabric: look at the fabric grain relative to the primary vertical seams (pant legs, jacket sleeve, shirt torso). The angle at which a piece of fabric is cut can drastically change the shape/fit of the item b…

>Take a look at Primark seams and then take a look at Brooks Brothers seams I'm not familiar with either. Which store is supposed to have the better seams?

Primark is a very cheap store - t-shirts for £2, trousers for £8 etc. It is fast fashion so stuff changes rapidly and frequently. If there is something on the catwalk at a fashion show that causes a lot of interest or someone famous wears something particularly noteworthy in a magazine photo, Primark will have something very similar to it in their stores within a week or two. Primark is hugely popular in the UK and elsewhere in Europe. Tourists at the central London stores (which are HUGE by the way - the size of a typical department store of years past) literally flock there.

The shopping experience is often chaotic (clothes strewn all over the place) and quality is generally not thought to be great - stuff might last only a few washes ... but it varies - I have a generic blue hoodie from Primark that cost less than £10 but it has lasted literally years and has some high quality features like the ends of the draw strings are finished in metal (not plastic and not just tied) so have not frayed or come apart. I don't think their quality is any worse than other high street retailers though - often they charge 3x 4x or more prices for equivalent quality.

I will certainly be using this guide in the future to pick the finest Primark has to offer!

Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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Post by hi5eyes »

technofiend wrote: post #76
nimbius wrote: post #39

Disclosure: I'm coming from a blue collar background as a master diesel mechanic Quality is build + aesthetic for me. Some brands i wear include Texas jeans, Chippewa boots, and all american clothing company. The quality from domestic apparel is in my experience massively superior to foreign brands. Carhartt jackets for winter are incredibly warm and gave great value, but their aesthetic isn't always popular. They la…

>but their aesthetic isn't always popular. My Carhartt clothing is some of the best made and longest wearing I own. You're going to laugh but Carhartt is trying to go upmarket and establish themselves as a fashion brand in Europe! Imagine my surprise to trip across a Carhartt store with a wall of gimme caps / trucker hats on display in Frankfurt, Germany! Hopefully they expand their profitability by getting their nam…

carhartt is already huge in streetwear/rich kids buy it for casual wear

Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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Post by wyclif »

dhd415 wrote: post #31
dlivingston wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any high-quality clothing stores that you recommend?

What kind of clothes are you looking for? In general, it's hard to find stores where you can walk in and be assured that anything they carry is high quality. Even the high-end department stores such as Saks Fifth Ave. and Neiman Marcus are going to carry a lot of "fashion" brands that are expensive but not necessarily good quality. Some local boutiques (e.g., Louis Boston though it too has declined in recent years) m…

I wonder if the slim fit would work for me, I'm in good shape (I have other "slim fit" khakis, but sometimes they're just a bit too ridiculous for someone built like me, with weird proportions).

Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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Post by arrrg »

benj111 wrote: post #93
kingludite wrote: post #50

I get what the article is getting at, its lovely for what it is trying to do. my take: Cloths are what people you meet look at. They create a mood in the spectator and leave an impression of who you are. First you have to figure out who you are, who you use to be and who you want to become. Who are the people you meet? they use to be what? who do you want them to be? After doing that you pick cloths that compliment t…

"a lederhose" Would it not still be lederhosen? Like trousers and not trouser. Although there is a place called Lederhose, so my etymology might be wrong, but Google isnt giving any trouser based results for Lederhose. Disclaimer, my German is nearly non existent.

„Lederhose“ is correct in German. „Lederhosen“ is just the plural.

If using the word in English texts “lederhosen” is in a sense correct, though, also when only referring to a single one. This is a case where the loan word was slightly adopted, no doubt to bring it more into line with the convention in the English language of using plural for trousers.

That convention doesn’t exist in German, except when using English loan words („Jeans“, „Shorts“, „Boxershorts“).

Re: How to assess the quality of garments (2014)

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Post by wyclif »

technofiend wrote: post #76
nimbius wrote: post #39

Disclosure: I'm coming from a blue collar background as a master diesel mechanic Quality is build + aesthetic for me. Some brands i wear include Texas jeans, Chippewa boots, and all american clothing company. The quality from domestic apparel is in my experience massively superior to foreign brands. Carhartt jackets for winter are incredibly warm and gave great value, but their aesthetic isn't always popular. They la…

>but their aesthetic isn't always popular. My Carhartt clothing is some of the best made and longest wearing I own. You're going to laugh but Carhartt is trying to go upmarket and establish themselves as a fashion brand in Europe! Imagine my surprise to trip across a Carhartt store with a wall of gimme caps / trucker hats on display in Frankfurt, Germany! Hopefully they expand their profitability by getting their nam…

For about 10 years I was a land surveyor and the Carhartt barn jacket (and Red Wing boots) are like a uniform in that profession. Mine is still going strong many years later. And it's totally broken in and has a patina, so it's super comfortable.
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