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New York state has banned cat declawing

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Re: New York state has banned cat declawing

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Post by pg_is_a_butt »

reverend_gonzo wrote: post #9
darkpuma wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess you disapprove? I don't take it personally, but neither do I understand your characterization. Wouldn't the stereotypical American position on this matter be one of hyper-individualism and prioritizing your property (your pet cat's desire to kill native birds) before the wellbeing of the environment? Those are stereotypes of course, but stereotypes seem to have informed your remark.

If you're going to ban your cat's desire to kill birds, you should also ban humans' desire to eat meat.

*farm

Re: New York state has banned cat declawing

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Post by sokoloff »

darkpuma wrote: post #3

They should have banned outdoor cats at the same time. Cats shouldn't be declawed and neither should they be outside, but if they're going to be outside it is better for the native wildlife if they have been declawed (making them ineffective hunters.)

My cat growing up was declawed and seemed to still be a fairly effective hunter given the frequency of offerings she brought home. She could also climb trees up to about 7-8 feet.

Re: New York state has banned cat declawing

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Post by eloisius »

rblatz wrote: post #4

I know a lot of people that would not own a cat that isn't declawed. I wonder what the net outcome is on cats being euthanized, I'm sure this will increase that number.

Sounds like an unfortunate short-term consequence, but if people don't want to own a cat anymore because they can't declaw it, I'm okay with that.

Re: New York state has banned cat declawing

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Post by qwsxyh »

darkpuma wrote: post #8
qwsxyh wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is such an American comment.

I guess you disapprove? I don't take it personally, but neither do I understand your characterization. Wouldn't the stereotypical American position on this matter be one of hyper-individualism and prioritizing your property (your pet cat's desire to kill native birds) before the wellbeing of the environment? Those are stereotypes of course, but stereotypes seem to have informed your remark.

Here in the UK we don't have this moral panic over outside cats. It seems to be a uniquely New World problem.

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Post by rkho »

rblatz wrote: post #4

I know a lot of people that would not own a cat that isn't declawed. I wonder what the net outcome is on cats being euthanized, I'm sure this will increase that number.

I would be much happier knowing that these people not own any pets if they were unable to care for them in a humane way. Declawing a cat is the equivalent to removing someone's fingers at the individual knuckle level. It's impractical, cruel, and causes lasting physical problems for the cat.

Re: New York state has banned cat declawing

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Post by Joakal »

dahartigan wrote: post #7

Been illegal here in Queensland, Australia for quite some time now.

Cats are legal to own. They get shelter, clean food and water including medical care. In fact people release cats into wild when they don't want to care for them leading to a lot of wildcats. While some places forbid cats going outside and encourage desexing, all this doesn't help the disadvantaged wildlife. Cats should be banned.

Why not legalize ownership of domesticated native animals such as koalas for example? Boom to tourism, culture and wildlife. Lots of funds can go to welfare of wildlife instead of foreign animals. What happens to domesticated koalas being released by people who dont want to care for them? A lot of wild koalas.

Re: New York state has banned cat declawing

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Post by Joakal »

qwsxyh wrote: post #15
darkpuma wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess you disapprove? I don't take it personally, but neither do I understand your characterization. Wouldn't the stereotypical American position on this matter be one of hyper-individualism and prioritizing your property (your pet cat's desire to kill native birds) before the wellbeing of the environment? Those are stereotypes of course, but stereotypes seem to have informed your remark.

Here in the UK we don't have this moral panic over outside cats. It seems to be a uniquely New World problem.

Cats are known to kill billions of animals per year.

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-15/cats-kill-billions...

Re: New York state has banned cat declawing

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Post by thestepafter »

rblatz wrote: post #4

I know a lot of people that would not own a cat that isn't declawed. I wonder what the net outcome is on cats being euthanized, I'm sure this will increase that number.

It is very easy to keep the cat claws trimmed with clippers on a regular basis. Just start playing with their paws frequently. Then you can start clipping once they are fine with you playing with their paws. Even better to start when they are a kitten.
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