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Granted, Gitlab CI was awesome the one time I used it.
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The best response to this that I can give is a link to our blog post about this, where we break down why we pay local rates: https://about.gitlab.com/2019/02/28/why-we-pay-local-rates/ So disclaimer, I work for GitLab. But the draw to working here isn't the possibility of making an SF salary, it's to work remotely for the same salary as working for a local company. I don't really care if I'm making less than a collea…
Why not compare with other remote companies, but with local ones? Furthermore, I’d care a lot if I made a lot less than a colleague for the same type of work at the same company. Living in a cheap area comes with drawbacks. It might be a good choice for some, but a necessity for others (maybe they have relatives to take care of). I don’t really see how my choice of location should affect my payment in a remote compan…
Because there really aren't that many of them, and even fewer who aren't also using local rates.
> Living in a cheap area comes with drawbacks.
I agree, I live in a cheaper COL location. But, I was already living here, so I'm not sure how my salary at GitLab affects that. Local companies don't pay you more because of the drawbacks of living in a cheaper location. If I moved to a higher COL location then I would be compensated for that [1]. The mechanics are the same, I just get to do my job from home.
> I’d care a lot if I made a lot less than a colleague for the same type of work at the same company
This is, I think, the most important factor. I didn't decline my offer at GitLab in favor of staying at my previous company because I knew my salary would be the same as every other employee. I compromised on that front so I could work remotely for a company that I really felt like was a better fit for me.
[1] https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-operations/global-c...
GitLab the company exists because of HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4428278 Ask me anything.
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It doesn't bother you that one of your colleagues in SF doing the exact same work as you gets paid double to also work from home?
Not really, my motivation to accept a job at GitLab didn't come from how much I could make relative to everyone else in the company, it came from how I could be doing the same work I was doing for a local company but from home. Salaries aren't the only thing that make one company more appealing than another.
We want to renew our license for a lower amount of people as last year and that seems to be a major issue, as we won't get responses from renewals@gitlab.com and our Technical Account Manager, after giving us directions that simply did not work stopped responding last week.
Friday our license will expire if we don't pony up for nearly twice the amount of seats than we actually need.
The last time I complained here someone bumped up our tickets but we still had to resolve the technical issue ourselves as the only option was to setup the instance differently, which an easy response from a support agent could have told us without a multi week delay.
I love the product, but have stopped recommending GitLab to anyone above a 10 people org for those reasons.
Would be interesting to know if they discriminate pay, according to where the person works from. Edit: Further down the page I saw: "Why they pay based on where team members live". That's petty.
This has always bothered me about GitLab and has prevented me from applying for a job there. I want to work remotely so I can move around a lot, both for long-term travel and to check out different places to live. I don't have a home. If I'm hired from NYC and then I move to rural Montana, that's none of their business. So long as I have reliable Internet wherever I am, and can work the hours I need (I'm happy to adj…
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What if somebody in SF was employed remotely by a company in a poorer country? Should the person in SF be paid less because employees in originating country have lower salaries?. Having salaries based on location is fair, the same job that pays 120k$ in SF pays 70k$ in my country and that makes me in top 2% earners in the country. I could argue that i actually get more with 70k$ in my country than somebody with 120k$…
> Having salaries based on location is fair It's no more fair than paying based on lifestyle choices; if any employee in SF is providing labor worth $200k, then an employee in Bucharest providing the same labor is also worth $200k. The fact that the SF employee has higher expenses doesn't make their labor more valuable. Sure, they are paying more to live in a more desirable location, but that no more deserves higher…
Is it profitable though?
No, they will get bought by Google soon tho so doesn't matter anyway
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Not really, my motivation to accept a job at GitLab didn't come from how much I could make relative to everyone else in the company, it came from how I could be doing the same work I was doing for a local company but from home. Salaries aren't the only thing that make one company more appealing than another.
It's not about salary, its about fairness. This is the kind of thinking that leads to the pay gap between genders -- because women are willing to accept less pay for the same work because "it's good enough and I don't want to cause trouble". It might very well be good enough, but it certainly isn't fair. Trouble needs to be caused when unfairness is involved.
The gender pay gap is a whole separate matter that I'd prefer not to get into because, tbh, talking about it in tech-spheres that are still male-dominated is intimidating. I guess all I can say beyond this is that if you're ethically against these practices then I support you voicing that, and while I can offer differing opinions, I still think you're within your right to openly disagree.
GitLab the company exists because of HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4428278 Ask me anything.