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Robinhood raises $323M at a $7.6B valuation

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Re: Robinhood raises $323M at a $7.6B valuation

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Robinhood is a predatory lending scheme. The vast majority of its users should not be trading anything other than indexes.

So Robinhood is now loaning money to helpless people at exorbitant interest rates? Or did you just make up a new definition for "predatory lending"?

Last I checked, their margin rates were ridiculous. So that description isn't as far off as you might think.

Re: Robinhood raises $323M at a $7.6B valuation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So Robinhood is now loaning money to helpless people at exorbitant interest rates? Or did you just make up a new definition for "predatory lending"?

Last I checked, their margin rates were ridiculous. So that description isn't as far off as you might think.

Wait, how so? Robinhood's margin is 5%.

Most (fidelity, etrade, etc.) have margin rates around ~10%. IB has ~3-4% but they're an outlier in this regard.

Re: Robinhood raises $323M at a $7.6B valuation

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I'm curious if anyone with knowledge can speak to how Robinhood sells data to high frequency traders? This seems to result in a large percentage of their revenue which of course makes sense due to not having commission revenue. I've also heard some people argue if you're investing a decent amount, you're better off with commissions over market orders on Robinhood. The arguments were the above & that orders can take a…

The other commenters answered your first question about the sale of flow to HFT firms. Regarding your second question, I wouldn't recommend trading a lot of size on Robinhood, or using market order in general, but brokerages that charge commissions do not necessarily offer better execution than Robinhood, many of them still route your flow to an HFT firm or have less than stellar order routing systems.

Execution price is governed by SEC and clients must get the best price. HFT doesn’t really work on retail investors who’s sells and buys can be covered with one order. You can’t front run one order trades. Institutional investors are the prey for most HFTs since they do large stock trades and they need to hide to prevent front running.

Re: Robinhood raises $323M at a $7.6B valuation

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I've been using Robinhood for the past year, and I hope they add basic features such as: - The ability to short a stock, which I still can't believe isn't available. - Price Alerts Everything else is gravy, IMO, especially if they keep the same basic, sleek interface, which I actually like.

Shorting a stock is not a basic feature, it's an advanced feature for power users.

You can buy put options on Robinhood already.

Re: Robinhood raises $323M at a $7.6B valuation

#46

I'm curious if anyone with knowledge can speak to how Robinhood sells data to high frequency traders? This seems to result in a large percentage of their revenue which of course makes sense due to not having commission revenue. I've also heard some people argue if you're investing a decent amount, you're better off with commissions over market orders on Robinhood. The arguments were the above & that orders can take a…

The only issue I have had with Robinhood is regarding tax planning, because they only support FIFO sell orders. There have been several instances where I would have preferred to sell shares purchased more recently, so that my older shares can pass the one year threshold for long term capital gains. The ability to specify lots when selling shares would be worth money to me.

Re: Robinhood raises $323M at a $7.6B valuation

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I've been using Robinhood for the past year, and I hope they add basic features such as: - The ability to short a stock, which I still can't believe isn't available. - Price Alerts Everything else is gravy, IMO, especially if they keep the same basic, sleek interface, which I actually like.

Shorting a stock is not a basic feature, it's an advanced feature for power users. You can buy put options on Robinhood already.

It's a feature available if you request it for most brokerages. That's what I consider a basic feature.

Re: Robinhood raises $323M at a $7.6B valuation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a couple of shares on the app for a company. Just for anecdotal data. It’s fun to see. I would never put large amounts of my money in there.

Good for you. (Not sarcasm —- this is what individual stock investing should be for retail. For fun, to have a tiny bit of skin in the game.) But many people let it get out of control, either because they lack this self discpline, or because they randomly see positive results and then think they’re good traders.

Those people can freely lose all of their money through a lack of self-control with any other brokers as well. Just because Robinhood has a good UI/UX that makes it easy to navigate doesn’t really qualify it as “predatory” or puts it at fault more than any other brokerage service.

Re: Robinhood raises $323M at a $7.6B valuation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't you say the same thing about everyone using any other retail brokerage?

No. Upstanding retail brokerages (such as Interactive Brokers) don’t make interest on their customers’ balances.

Assuming that's true, how would that make RobinHood a predatory lending scheme?
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