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Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI
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Re: Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI
#162Congrats on the fundraise Greg and team!
Does this mean that OpenAI may not disclose progress, papers with details, and/or open source code as much as in the past? In other words, what proprietary advantage will Microsoft gain when licensing new tech from OpenAI?
I understand that keeping some innovations private may help commercialization, which may help raise more funds for OpenAI, getting us to AGI faster, so my opinion is that could plausibly make sense.
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(I work at OpenAI.) It comes down to whether you believe AGI is achievable. We've talked about why we think it might be: https://medium.com/syncedreview/openai-founder-short-term-ag... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHCSNsLKHfM And we certainly have more of a plan for building it than warp drives :). EDIT: I personally think the case for near-term AGI is strong enough that it'd be hard for me work on any other pro…
>It comes down to whether you believe AGI is achievable How could it possibly not be achievable? We know for certain general intelligence is physically realizable - we exist.
Perhaps it is naturally occurring and not artificially reproducible (or possible for US to reproduce). Why should we assume that it is? Because we have reproduced other things? That doesn't necessitate our ability to create everything conceivable.
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>we are not even close to achieving insect-level intelligence. Is this true? Is there an insect turing test?
I don't see how it could be. What can insect brains do that we couldn't get AI to do?
In terms of intelligence, there isn’t. What prevents us from actually building a uber-insect is miniaturization, self sustaining energy production of some kind and reproduction in an artificially built system. I guess it would be possible to demonstrate insect level intelligence by actually replacing an insect brain with an artificial one.
Re: Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
(I work at OpenAI.) It comes down to whether you believe AGI is achievable. We've talked about why we think it might be: https://medium.com/syncedreview/openai-founder-short-term-ag... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHCSNsLKHfM And we certainly have more of a plan for building it than warp drives :). EDIT: I personally think the case for near-term AGI is strong enough that it'd be hard for me work on any other pro…
> It comes down to whether you believe AGI is achievable. No, it does not. I very much believe AI (or AGI, as you call it) is achievable, but may I remind you that some years after the invention of neural networks, Norbert Wiener, one of the greatest minds of his generations, said that the secret of intelligence would be unlocked within five years, and Alan Turing -- a component of your very own post-pre-AGI era's AG…
I can't find any results for either Norbert Weiner or Alan Turing saying those things - do you have a source?
Re: Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
(I work at OpenAI.) It comes down to whether you believe AGI is achievable. We've talked about why we think it might be: https://medium.com/syncedreview/openai-founder-short-term-ag... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHCSNsLKHfM And we certainly have more of a plan for building it than warp drives :). EDIT: I personally think the case for near-term AGI is strong enough that it'd be hard for me work on any other pro…
>It comes down to whether you believe AGI is achievable How could it possibly not be achievable? We know for certain general intelligence is physically realizable - we exist.
By purely organic means of which we only have one current way of creating (e.g. via birth). The question is whether we can create AGI through other artificial means.
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#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
>we are not even close to achieving insect-level intelligence. Is this true? Is there an insect turing test?
I don't see how it could be. What can insect brains do that we couldn't get AI to do?
Pretty much everything that insects do is beyond our current AI and engineering tech. Ignoring the "engineering" feats that biological beings perform such as replication, respiration and turning other plants and creatures into their own energy source, their behaviour is very sophisticated. Imagine programming a drone to perform the work of a foraging Bee, using a computer that fits into a brain the size of a grain of rice. It can manage advanced flight manoeuvres, navigation to and from the hive, finding pollen, harvesting it, dodging predators and no doubt a dozen skills I can't even imagine.
Re: Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI
#169Congrats on the investment, but this release reads like a parody. I believe that building a beneficial warp-drive engine will be the most important technological development in human history, with the potential to shape the trajectory of humanity. The aliens we're sure to encounter will be capable of mastering more fields than any one human — like a tool which combines the skills of Curie, Turing, and Bach. An alien…
(I work at OpenAI.) It comes down to whether you believe AGI is achievable. We've talked about why we think it might be: https://medium.com/syncedreview/openai-founder-short-term-ag... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHCSNsLKHfM And we certainly have more of a plan for building it than warp drives :). EDIT: I personally think the case for near-term AGI is strong enough that it'd be hard for me work on any other pro…
Even if AGI is achievable, we already have plenty human intelligence. It remains to be seen if AGI will lead to anything over what we can already do.
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Not taking a side on the over/under for AGI, but perhaps you are also acquainted with this little gem: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/38e6/1d9a65aa483ad0fb4a219f... Shannon, Minsky, and McCarthy!
It's an interesting dream team. But AFAICT this is only a proposal. Did the proposed series of studies take place? If so what was the outcome?
I think the result was this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmouth_workshop