That's how they perpetuate "Made in China"===(Fake|Crap) I was wondering why is obscure, crappy apps in apple store get so many positive reviews. Apple/AMZN need to up their game in reviews/ratings domains.
App stores are also used for money laundering. Create a bogus app, spend a bunch of money "buying" your app and now you have "legitimate" money.
Click farms: a shadowy internet industry is booming in China
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#72There was a reply here, now dead, that I wanted to discuss: "Hey man, I'm just trying to feed my family. I have kids so that means I can behave however I want so long as it benefits my kids. And rather than trust some reviews on a platform anyone can sign up for, how about you do some reading on the app developer and their ToS and Privacy Policy." I'm adamantly opposed to spam, and back in the early days of the web (…
Just before my son was born, I was struggling to find a stable job. So I worked on online web dev jobs for some seriously shady characters. I made between 10 and 15 sites that they would buy databases and mass mail users in various industries to try and get them to sign up for really shitty programs. (One for example was a roofing company promising 100's of clients). The amount of work I did on the back end to track…
OK, I'm just going to come out and say it: I'd do it as well. And I cound my blessings often (not every day, though I should) that I don't need to, and unless the world changes massively and high-level experienced software devs are no longer needed, I'll never need to.
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Just before my son was born, I was struggling to find a stable job. So I worked on online web dev jobs for some seriously shady characters. I made between 10 and 15 sites that they would buy databases and mass mail users in various industries to try and get them to sign up for really shitty programs. (One for example was a roofing company promising 100's of clients). The amount of work I did on the back end to track…
It is understandable to be willing to do anything for ones family. I also think it is equally understandable if society put people in jail who do cross the line. If you had ended up being charged for spamming, hacking into bot catchers, breaking data protection laws (like GDPR if you live in EU), would you accept that as a acceptable consequence and still have done it to get money for the family? Or would you think t…
I would have setup a way not to be caught.
It would be criminal, (this was pre-gdpr it definitely would be now), but I would have done it still.
She was supported to an extent, but we knew once she had our son, we wouldn't be able to keep up with necessities. We needed to start buying things then and there.
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App stores are also used for money laundering. Create a bogus app, spend a bunch of money "buying" your app and now you have "legitimate" money.
Is that really a big problem? I mean, Apple would take a 30% cut AND you'd have to put the money in the bank first which would make it traceable if I'm not missing something?
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I wasn't familiar with schemes that use app stores for money laundering so I did some basic web searches and it seems it can been used to launder more than $50.00. Here is one example: https://complyadvantage.com/blog/blog-money-laundering-via-a... Just to be clear: I don't condone money laundering and I don't suggest you do it!
Is this really money laundering though? No attempt is made to obscure the source of the money. This looks very much like standard credit card fraud to me.
Now take this and have an organization doing it. They probably pay people across the world to get the gift cards they use.
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App stores are also used for money laundering. Create a bogus app, spend a bunch of money "buying" your app and now you have "legitimate" money.
Is 30% cut by Apple/Google actually competitive compared to other money laundering methods?
Using a real physical business has a lot of problems that apps do not.
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Is this really money laundering though? No attempt is made to obscure the source of the money. This looks very much like standard credit card fraud to me.
Pretend I’m a scammer. Buy 10,000 CC#s in bulk. Most are bunk but I’ll buy iTunes gift cards with the good ones. Then I make clean money on the developer side. Maybe I’ll use gift cards to buy gift cards to buy gift cards. Now take this and have an organization doing it. They probably pay people across the world to get the gift cards they use.
The goal here isn’t to obscure the source of the money, the goal is to monetize credit card fraud.
Nobody would actually use iTunes to launder money, the fees are simply too high.
>Then I make clean money on the developer side.
That money is not clean.
>Maybe I’ll use gift cards to buy gift cards to buy gift cards.
And lose all of your money to apples fees and taxes, which is precisely why nobody would ever do this.
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It is understandable to be willing to do anything for ones family. I also think it is equally understandable if society put people in jail who do cross the line. If you had ended up being charged for spamming, hacking into bot catchers, breaking data protection laws (like GDPR if you live in EU), would you accept that as a acceptable consequence and still have done it to get money for the family? Or would you think t…
"If you had ended up being charged for spamming, hacking into bot catchers". I would have setup a way not to be caught. It would be criminal, (this was pre-gdpr it definitely would be now), but I would have done it still. She was supported to an extent, but we knew once she had our son, we wouldn't be able to keep up with necessities. We needed to start buying things then and there.