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Edge is the number one browser in the world for installing chrome.
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Other browsers use a _truncated_ hash. Easy enough to match to a known list of bad sites, but exceptionally difficult to reverse engineer a list of sites the user has visited.
Those hashes have to be essentially unique to prevent blocking good sites erroneous;y, and as such are easily associated to actual sites when you’re the scale of MS or Google.
1. The truncated hash is checked against local database.
2. If there's a hit, send the truncated hash to Google, and receive a list of full hashes for the truncated hashes.
3. Check if the full hash is in that list. If so, warn.
I'm not certain that the hash is truncated enough, but the general idea is a pretty straightforward trade-off between the amount of information Google needs and the amount of information your computer needs.
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Doesn't Chrome send your entire browsing history to Google as well? Edit: I thought this was a well know fact and if it isn't I might have been to harsh about Google and Chrome. Edit 2: Thinking about it and searching a bit I conclude that IIRC Google at least used to have access to your browsing history as part of syncing it unencrypted.
Only through sync, which you can encrypt with a separate password to your Google account. My sync is encrypted so I can't test this for you but I believe if it's not, you can check (and clear) your history here: https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity Google's privacy policy seems to make it clear that this happens unless encryption is turned on: https://www.google.com/chrome/privacy/index.html#signed-in
Eric Lawrence (PM on Edge, previously on Chrome, previously author of fiddler) showing screenshots of documentation that explains all that, and saying it's been documented this way for 14 years: https://twitter.com/ericlaw/status/1152933704198758401
...and for 14 years no ordinary user has understood what those default settings do, instead assuming “their software provider wouldn’t do that...”
Edit: oh, this is in addition to the Mirror stuff. Yea this should never be a thing.
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...and for 14 years no ordinary user has understood what those default settings do, instead assuming “their software provider wouldn’t do that...”
I think you're making a big assumption that ordinary users care if Microsoft knows what URLs they visit--how many of them use blockers or another technology to opt out of e.g. Facebook tracking?
Most people don't care what's in their food exactly, but that doesn't mean the producer has no responsibility.
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...and for 14 years no ordinary user has understood what those default settings do, instead assuming “their software provider wouldn’t do that...”
I think you're making a big assumption that ordinary users care if Microsoft knows what URLs they visit--how many of them use blockers or another technology to opt out of e.g. Facebook tracking?
"Users don't care" is such an intellectually dishonest argument when users aren't technical enough to understand the subject.
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Only through sync, which you can encrypt with a separate password to your Google account. My sync is encrypted so I can't test this for you but I believe if it's not, you can check (and clear) your history here: https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity Google's privacy policy seems to make it clear that this happens unless encryption is turned on: https://www.google.com/chrome/privacy/index.html#signed-in
you missed the obvious one (that is actually related to the linked edge issue): SafeBrowse. SafeBrowse gets ALL your traffic from most browsers.
Edit: never be afraid to admit your were wrong folks :) So it only gets a “potential list” of sites you visited. Wonder if the operators could aggregate the data enough to deanonymize things
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Doesn't Chrome send your entire browsing history to Google as well? Edit: I thought this was a well know fact and if it isn't I might have been to harsh about Google and Chrome. Edit 2: Thinking about it and searching a bit I conclude that IIRC Google at least used to have access to your browsing history as part of syncing it unencrypted.
Everything you type into the address bar gets considered for possible completion, right? And part of that quite possibly entails sending it off to Google servers which take a stab at finding completions for it. Your claim seems plausible at least.
Edge is the number one browser in the world for installing chrome.
You shouldn't need Edge, Chrome, or Firefox to install each other. If you know the URL of the file you want to download, you could use curl or wget. (Of course, that won't work if you do not know the URL. But hopefully someone will tell you if you are unable to find it on your own computer.)