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I assumed every browser did this as a part of their safe browsing features. Or is this different somehow?
Following tweets explain that other browsers send an hashed URL instead. (but I guess it's easy to associate the hash with actual URLs)
Every time I see people on HN campaigning for Microsoft as some kind of reformed tech company that has seen the errors of its past and turned into a force for good, something like this comes up. Same old Microsoft. Second verse same as the first.
This behaviour is part of SmartScreen, it's publicly known about, documented, optional. It's explicitly called out somewhere - when you install a new Windows 10 and it takes you through the privacy settings, there's mention of sending browsing data to Microsoft if you agree - https://1re4xlezju-flywheel.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/upload... - and that's been a warning in the IE first run dialog since before IE 11 - http://www.herongyang.com/Windows/IE_10_SmartScreen_Filter.j...
> When checking web content, data about the content and your device is sent to Microsoft, including the full web address of the content.
https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement#mainsec...
SmartScreen for Windows Defender will send filenames, hashes and download locations to Microsoft as well.
This is less bad than "like" buttons tracking you around the web in an undocumented and not-optional way with no user benefit.
Is this so different to Google quietly signing you into Chrome when you sign into a Google website, and Chrome sync'ing your browser history to Google by default and sending URLs of pages you visit from the Omnibox?[1] Or "Sends URLs of some pages that you visit to Google, when your security is at risk" from the Chrome options? To Facebook scraping call records and SMS texts from Android devices for years? [2] Ubuntu with opt-out system data gathering in 18.04, and wants to gather data to track "relative popularity of apps"[3], or Steam gathering data about what games you play[4]. Would you believe, Wonderful helpful Google has every email you send or receive through a GMail account or to one, but Evil Microsoft has every email you send through/to an Office 365 account. Wonderful Google and Amazon could access any VM on their clouds, so could evil Microsoft on Azure - except Microsoft built Shielded VMs into Hyper-V to protect the VM from compromised hosts, and to keep secrets in the VM which host administrators cannot access. [5]
Tech companies spy on people for money, isn't as anti Microsoft an idea though, is it?
[1] https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/privacy/whitepaper.htm...
[2] https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/25/17160944/facebook-call-hi...
[3] https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/02/ubuntu-data-collection-o...
[4] https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/07/steam-data-leak-revea...
[5] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/security/gua...
Every time I see people on HN campaigning for Microsoft as some kind of reformed tech company that has seen the errors of its past and turned into a force for good, something like this comes up. Same old Microsoft. Second verse same as the first.
Not sure if it's bought or organic, but no other company gets the response Microsoft gets. The smallest triviality get praised, the biggest flaws get rationalized away. Like, people here were going wild when they added UNIX line-ending support to notepad.
Every time I see people on HN campaigning for Microsoft as some kind of reformed tech company that has seen the errors of its past and turned into a force for good, something like this comes up. Same old Microsoft. Second verse same as the first.
This is "the same verse" as what? Bundling IE with Windows? The same as making proprietary technologies on open ones? The same as strongarming Gary Kildall? No, no it isn't "the same". Anti M$ comment is just whiny. This behaviour is part of SmartScreen, it's publicly known about, documented, optional. It's explicitly called out somewhere - when you install a new Windows 10 and it takes you through the privacy settin…
Every time I see people on HN campaigning for Microsoft as some kind of reformed tech company that has seen the errors of its past and turned into a force for good, something like this comes up. Same old Microsoft. Second verse same as the first.
Every time I see people on HN campaigning for Microsoft as some kind of reformed tech company that has seen the errors of its past and turned into a force for good, something like this comes up. Same old Microsoft. Second verse same as the first.
The good part of Microsoft is the division responsible for languages, compilers and cloud. Meanwhile an old Microsoft makes Windows, Office, etc. While the latter has improved somewhat, only the former has reformed.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
True, but nothing beats MS Edge if you have a touch screen and that it a good enough reason for me to stay with Edge.
Can you save text files that you're looking at in Edge yet? Like if you navigate to a URL that goes https://foo.com/blah.txt can you hit Ctrl+S or right-click on the text page and save the document? The last time I looked at Edge the answer was no.
I assumed every browser did this as a part of their safe browsing features. Or is this different somehow?
Following tweets explain that other browsers send an hashed URL instead. (but I guess it's easy to associate the hash with actual URLs)
[1] https://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/safebro...
[2] https://blog.cloudflare.com/validating-leaked-passwords-with...
