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Quark – A software sketchbook for your projects

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Re: Quark – A software sketchbook for your projects

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Post by nishkalkashyap »

masukomi wrote: post #24

> ...felt a need for a software tool that would help me do things like — plot charts, app prototyping, create dashboards/GUI’s for my personal projects etc. I just needed “some place” to write my code, build small projects or test new ideas. To much of my own surprise, I could not find an easy way to do so. to the author: Congrats on building and delivering on what's a pretty significant undertaking. That being said,…

I would disagree. What Quark offers is much more. You don't have to learn a new language. You have access to this massive javascript ecosystem. And it has out of the box support for React.js, Vue.js, Typescript and toolings like webpack that developers love.

Re: Quark – A software sketchbook for your projects

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Post by nishkalkashyap »

WaltPurvis wrote: post #25
protomyth wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, Quark's lawyers are not shy and quite aggressive.

Can confirm. The name will have to be changed. And to the app's creators: Don't change the name to InDesign .

If their software product feels threatened by something that a developer came out of his basement. Perhaps it's time for them to rethink their entire strategy.

Re: Quark – A software sketchbook for your projects

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Post by capn_cabbage »

nishkalkashyap wrote: post #32
WaltPurvis wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can confirm. The name will have to be changed. And to the app's creators: Don't change the name to InDesign .

If their software product feels threatened by something that a developer came out of his basement. Perhaps it's time for them to rethink their entire strategy.

IANAL, but from what I can gather (at least with the USPTO in the USA), a trademark can be weakened and even lost when not properly monitored and/or enforced. It would be unwise for any business to fail to protect their trademark(s).

Re: Quark – A software sketchbook for your projects

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Post by nishkalkashyap »

mkl wrote: post #27

> files you create inside the IDE are virtual files with no foot print on your real file system. This is done to make sharing a project as easy as sharing a single file. This sounds like it would prevent the proper use of version control systems like git, which seems like a terrible idea. Is my interpretation correct? It seems like it would be better to develop with normal files (and the decades of powerful tools tha…

Yes. You are right here. It does takes away from version control systems. But the thing is that this functionality is not forced upon you. You can still choose to code in your real file system, and use Quark only as a runtime.

Re: Quark – A software sketchbook for your projects

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Post by cschmidt »

nishkalkashyap wrote: post #32
WaltPurvis wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can confirm. The name will have to be changed. And to the app's creators: Don't change the name to InDesign .

If their software product feels threatened by something that a developer came out of his basement. Perhaps it's time for them to rethink their entire strategy.

(note: IANAL)

I don't know what country you're in, but they're in the US, and their lawyers are legally obligated to defend their trademarks against all violations, or they risk losing the trademark. So they will. Trademark use is by category, so you might be able to start a business called Quark Cupcakes, but you're both doing software, so it is a clear violation.

It is really hard to find a good name, and obviously it is your choice to stick with Quark. However, I do expect you'll get a cease and desist letter unless you change the name.

Re: Quark – A software sketchbook for your projects

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Post by NotSammyHagar »

nishkalkashyap wrote: post #30
tones411 wrote: post #29

Congratulations on your release! With Adobe Air you could make executables with html/css/js (or flash). End users had to have the Adobe Air runtime installed to run the apps. Can you help understand if the concept you have here is much different than, or much the same as the Adobe Air concept?

Well the first difference here is that Quark is a free software, Adobe Air is not. I din't know enough about adobe Air to comment on technical differences, but one thing that strikes me is that electron(as hence Quark) appears to be more popular than Adobe Air.

You are doing a great job answering these questions. Love your project, nice work.

Re: Quark – A software sketchbook for your projects

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Post by hallihax »

nishkalkashyap wrote: post #32
WaltPurvis wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can confirm. The name will have to be changed. And to the app's creators: Don't change the name to InDesign .

If their software product feels threatened by something that a developer came out of his basement. Perhaps it's time for them to rethink their entire strategy.

> Perhaps it's time for them to rethink their entire strategy.

Their strategy works. Yours is unproven.

Just an observation :P

Re: Quark – A software sketchbook for your projects

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Post by floki999 »

nishkalkashyap wrote: post #19
floki999 wrote: post #4

It looks great, and I understand the use-case. But the downside I see is that while Quark is lightweight it still has a ton of dependencies. It still doesn’t allow you to easily share your dashboard with other internal users (unless they have the same Quark environment), does it? Perhaps I’m wrong. Anyway, it’s nicely done.

> It looks great, and I understand the use-case. But the downside I see is that while Quark is lightweight it still has a ton of dependencies. We have a ton of dependencies so that you can get out of the box support for most of your projects. With React, Vue , Webpack(+ common loaders), Babel(+common plugins) e.t.c and Quark's internal dependencies, the package still weighs uncompressed ~300mb. Now compare that with…

That’s the tricky bit - for anyone who is technical amongst a non-technical team, where you can’t expect or rely colleagues to deal with the environment. Same goes for Jupiter Noteboks and similar solutions. This is so why, in my opinion, Excel VBA has been successful, in that everyone has it by default and it is easy to distribute solutions or demo’s.

Anyway, what you’ve achieved is really cool. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Quark – A software sketchbook for your projects

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Post by tones411 »

nishkalkashyap wrote: post #30
tones411 wrote: post #29

Congratulations on your release! With Adobe Air you could make executables with html/css/js (or flash). End users had to have the Adobe Air runtime installed to run the apps. Can you help understand if the concept you have here is much different than, or much the same as the Adobe Air concept?

Well the first difference here is that Quark is a free software, Adobe Air is not. I din't know enough about adobe Air to comment on technical differences, but one thing that strikes me is that electron(as hence Quark) appears to be more popular than Adobe Air.

I'm pretty sure Adobe Air is free. And Electron is only popular among developers, whereas Air is a runtime for end users. Not saying you should use Air, just that I think what you are building has been built before. I do applaud you for the work, though.
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