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Alaska’s Engineering Colleges Prepare to Slash Programs, Lay Off Faculty

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Re: Alaska’s Engineering Colleges Prepare to Slash Programs, Lay Off Faculty

#121

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Nobody needs a “deeper and penetrating insight into the finances of state of Alaska” to see the problem here. Cutting a stem program should not be on the top of any budget cut proposal. That’s the problem.

I'd love to see a comparison of the sizes of cuts across the UA system - if STEM is being cut disproportionately that's really messed up. But as far as I can tell, it's the UA administration choosing what to cut, and I wouldn't put it past people choosing the worst places to cut in order to score political points.

Dunleavy released a 15 page budget proposal which notes that UAF's spending is the sum of the problem: UAA and the community campuses are fine, UAF is way out there. This is actually true; the UAF campus has over 2x the spending per student of the rest of the system.

Unfortunately, his staff doesn't seem to have been educated enough to realize that that spending is on graduate & research programs. Since that's where the money you can effectively cut is, that's what will get cut.

Re: Alaska’s Engineering Colleges Prepare to Slash Programs, Lay Off Faculty

#122

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Such a big issue. We all see the high healthcare and education costs and want healthcare and higher education for all, but our healthcare (current system) is way more expensive than other developed nations' and college prices have only increased over time, turning student loans into college administrators. We'll have to address this inflation either way.

This is why these universal programs are coupled with monopsony leverage. Healthcare prices have exploded because the government has been intentionally hobbled at the bargaining table, legislatively blocked from using its weight to negotiate better deals for prescription drug prices. Tuition has exploded because a system of credit has been created that is untouchable by bankruptcy. These are solvable problems.

> This is why these universal programs are coupled with monopsony leverage. Healthcare prices have exploded because the government has been intentionally hobbled at the bargaining table, legislatively blocked from using its weight to negotiate better deals for prescription drug prices.

"Monopsony leverage" and "bargaining" is just price controls. You don't even need single payer for that if you want to do it, you can just legislate prices.

The problem is price controls have a long record of being problematic, because everybody wants lower prices but if you set the price too low you get shortages. This is complicated in this case by the fact that most of the cost is R&D, so the thing that isn't supplied isn't pills for already-developed drugs, it's research into new drugs. And then comparisons to other countries fall flat because it's a global market, so as long as anyone (i.e. the US) is paying a lot to create a return for R&D spending, the research gets done and the other countries get access to it.

So one of the reasons we pay so much more than everybody else is that we subsidize medical R&D for the rest of the world. Solving that isn't just a matter of us paying less, it also has to somehow involve them paying more, unless we want a lot less R&D.

Moreover, a lot of the costs basically amount to regulatory capture or drug companies outsmarting the government. It's them finding ways to limit competition for things that should be cheap commodities, or get patents on things that are only marginally better than the status quo, and use that to raise prices. So you have to find ways to distinguish that stuff from real medical advances that are actually worth paying higher costs to get. But if you can do that then you can restrain that type of behavior without actually regulating prices, so that genuine medical advances continue to get the funding they require to be developed. Which is really what we need to do, but easier said than done.

Re: Alaska’s Engineering Colleges Prepare to Slash Programs, Lay Off Faculty

#123

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"We don't think they vote the right way, so we should deny them the right to vote" is a really shaky moral foundation for actions that rapidly destroy democracy. And you don't like it when the other side does it...

If democracy needs to be temporarily compromised to save the planet, so be it. The dogma of universal suffrage should not be our top priority (not that we currently live by it anyway!)

Most past seemingly good reasons to temporarily compromise democracy turned out in hindsight to not be worth it. This one might be actually worth it, or maybe the next once will, but we're generally well served by a taboo against dismantling democracy.

A revolution could well not go the way you want, and end up in a system where no one can even defend fighting climate change, or worse, everyone has to enthusiastically pretend we're doing a heroic effort that is well on track to solve the problem.

Re: Alaska’s Engineering Colleges Prepare to Slash Programs, Lay Off Faculty

#124

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They need to raise taxes. Alaska has been riding the oil money for a long time, but that's being reduced every year. Since they didn't invest it wisely, they have nothing to fall back on. The only way to reduce the deficit is a combination of eliminating government services and raising taxes.

There are several reasons why alaska wants badly to maintain low taxes and it's not entirely because the leaders are all fiscally conservative ideologues.

Please list some of them. We're not all well-versed in US politics.

Re: Alaska’s Engineering Colleges Prepare to Slash Programs, Lay Off Faculty

#125

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Different taxes affect different people differently. Sales tax primarily hits poor people for example - there’s only so much the rich can spend their money on. Bracketed income tax can be made to have low impact for lower income while boosting revenue. Property taxes tax the permanent residents but misses out the opportunity of, let’s say, taxing the tourists. Those are all levers. There was a recent article on econo…

> Property taxes tax the permanent residents but misses out the opportunity of, let’s say, taxing the tourists. Tourists pay real property taxes because those taxes are factors into accommodation prices, and into the prices of goods and services sold to tourists.

> those taxes are factors into accommodation prices

Citation needed. Accommodation pricing is typically set by supply and demand. Which is why, last minute hotel deals at steep discounts are a thing.

> Tourists pay real property taxes

Then states/counties should be recovering delinquent property taxes from them

Re: Alaska’s Engineering Colleges Prepare to Slash Programs, Lay Off Faculty

#126

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"We don't think they vote the right way, so we should deny them the right to vote" is a really shaky moral foundation for actions that rapidly destroy democracy. And you don't like it when the other side does it...

If democracy needs to be temporarily compromised to save the planet, so be it. The dogma of universal suffrage should not be our top priority (not that we currently live by it anyway!)

Listen to the authoritarian roar!

Re: Alaska’s Engineering Colleges Prepare to Slash Programs, Lay Off Faculty

#127

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If democracy needs to be temporarily compromised to save the planet, so be it. The dogma of universal suffrage should not be our top priority (not that we currently live by it anyway!)

Most past seemingly good reasons to temporarily compromise democracy turned out in hindsight to not be worth it. This one might be actually worth it, or maybe the next once will, but we're generally well served by a taboo against dismantling democracy. A revolution could well not go the way you want, and end up in a system where no one can even defend fighting climate change, or worse, everyone has to enthusiasticall…

Yeah. The one who winds up in power is whoever is best at using the situation to take power. This does not have any correlation with who is best at actually solving the problem.

Re: Alaska’s Engineering Colleges Prepare to Slash Programs, Lay Off Faculty

#128

The Alaska budget cuts are not only to the University. Deep cuts across the board with services Governor Dunleavy feels are unnecessary taking the biggest hit (public health, university, public ferry transportation). However, according to Alaska's constitution the government must come up with a balanced budget. They have failed to do so since revenue shortfalls began. The previous governor used a stopgap measure of u…

While this may be true, Alaska, unlike almost all other states, basically operates without any income or sales taxes. They depend almost entirely on oil revenue and property taxes which obviously isn't sustainable long term. https://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/state-taxes-alaska.as...

ouch. Would expect Alaska is boned — all the shale-related production is cheaper to produce and closer to consumers than Alaskan stuff.

Re: Alaska’s Engineering Colleges Prepare to Slash Programs, Lay Off Faculty

#129

The Alaska budget cuts are not only to the University. Deep cuts across the board with services Governor Dunleavy feels are unnecessary taking the biggest hit (public health, university, public ferry transportation). However, according to Alaska's constitution the government must come up with a balanced budget. They have failed to do so since revenue shortfalls began. The previous governor used a stopgap measure of u…

While this may be true, Alaska, unlike almost all other states, basically operates without any income or sales taxes. They depend almost entirely on oil revenue and property taxes which obviously isn't sustainable long term. https://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/state-taxes-alaska.as...

If it is unsustainable, then how come New Hampshire hasn't been forced at some point during its 200-year history to adopt an income tax or a sales tax?

Re: Alaska’s Engineering Colleges Prepare to Slash Programs, Lay Off Faculty

#130

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> Property taxes tax the permanent residents but misses out the opportunity of, let’s say, taxing the tourists. Tourists pay real property taxes because those taxes are factors into accommodation prices, and into the prices of goods and services sold to tourists.

> those taxes are factors into accommodation prices Citation needed. Accommodation pricing is typically set by supply and demand. Which is why, last minute hotel deals at steep discounts are a thing. > Tourists pay real property taxes Then states/counties should be recovering delinquent property taxes from them

There is no citation needed. Property taxes are one of the base costs in determining the revenue needed for keeping the accommodation provider open. It then follows that that cost must be paid by the customers if the establishment is to be profitable. If the business is being operated at a loss on purpose then this doesn't apply.

The tourists in aggregate are therefore paying the property taxes of the establishment.

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