I'm considering my first Windows workstation in more than a decade and was planning on Windows for Workstations precisely because I don't want to remove all the packaged crap.
£300 is quite the premium though.
Windows 10 Debloat Script
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Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
On Windows 10? I closed everything except Firefox (and this HN tab), which is taking up 600MB of RAM, and now it's at 4.6GB of RAM. Before with two instances of GoLand, Slack and Discord open it was over at 8GB of RAM.
On a Windows 10 VM set to 2 GB of RAM, Windows idles at about 1.1 GB. On a 16 GB Windows it uses about 7.5 GB. All of that seems to swap out or go away somewhere if I get busy with Visual Studio. On a 64 GB Windows it seems to idle at about 9.6 GB used. Of course, this one isn't a purely work machine and has Steam, Origin, Ubisoft's thing, etc, etc. So Windows 10 is pretty variable. I imagine it has something to do w…
What quantity are you measuring that's 7.5 GB... and what else do you have on that machine? I quit Chrome on my current machine which has a bunch of other stuff and has no less RAM than yours, and even then I was left with <4GB of anything I could regard as usage. It can't possibly be just Windows itself idling at 7.5 GB?
Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script
#43I have to ask, for anyone that cares this much, why bother with Windows at this point? Wouldn't it be easier to just use Linux? I know the usual argument is that you need Windows to game, but why make your gaming instance your main work instance too? Why not dual boot and use Linux for work and Windows for gaming?
> I have to ask, for anyone that cares this much, why bother with Windows at this point? Wouldn't it be easier to just use Linux?
For me no it isn't. I am a nomadic VB/C# .NET developer and while most things now run cross platform flawlessly, there are many components that don't.
e.g. SQL Server is a major sticking point. Visual Studio on Windows has a concept of a SQL Server project. There is simply no cross platform equivalent. SQL Server projects typically serve two purposes 1. Let you easily develop a local database 2. Let you easily deploy your database changes (the deployment profile can be configured per environment that your organisation has).
Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script
#44I tried running this and then I remembered why I stopped tweaking Windows, I wind up running into odd issues. Windows stopped being unstable for me years ago when I stopped fidgeting with features. I'm better off disabling as much as I can through the normal settings they provide. I don't know if it's just I'm doing something wrong but it's been my experience. I would love to see Windows not take up 4 gigs of RAM out…
> I would love to see Windows not take up 4 gigs of RAM out of the box. Let me uninstall Cortana please Microsoft. I'm sure there's other crap I don't want but I fear if I can't just hit 'Uninstall' it wont go well, or an update will bring it back.
So much misinformation in this and the replies that address this. Windows needs a minimum of 2GB RAM to run. But it scales its memory footprint according to the available memory. It will instantly swap this out when a demanding application is launched. For reference, on my Thinkpad with 8GB of RAM, Windows idles at about 3GB. On my PC with 16GB, it idles at around 7.5GB.
Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script
#45I tried running this and then I remembered why I stopped tweaking Windows, I wind up running into odd issues. Windows stopped being unstable for me years ago when I stopped fidgeting with features. I'm better off disabling as much as I can through the normal settings they provide. I don't know if it's just I'm doing something wrong but it's been my experience. I would love to see Windows not take up 4 gigs of RAM out…
1903 decoupled cortana from search. I would have her or just deleted the executable a long time ago, but they had them bundled. Now, I can do that, no issues.
Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script
#46I tried running this and then I remembered why I stopped tweaking Windows, I wind up running into odd issues. Windows stopped being unstable for me years ago when I stopped fidgeting with features. I'm better off disabling as much as I can through the normal settings they provide. I don't know if it's just I'm doing something wrong but it's been my experience. I would love to see Windows not take up 4 gigs of RAM out…
Windows will grow to fill the available RAM and will also release it when there is memory pressure
Lots of people install 8 or 16 GBs and complain about how much Windows consumes but if you remove RAM, Windows will happily operate at under 50% utilization in 4 or 6 GB situations.
Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script
#47I have to ask, for anyone that cares this much, why bother with Windows at this point? Wouldn't it be easier to just use Linux? I know the usual argument is that you need Windows to game, but why make your gaming instance your main work instance too? Why not dual boot and use Linux for work and Windows for gaming?
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Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
I learned to love the defaults on everything and its liberating. Every time a new major update comes out, I do a clean install, put on Office, Visual Studio and a couple of apps and I'm good to go.
Heh I feel you, when a new Ubuntu comes out sometimes I just fresh install just cause you never know, though I have upgraded in the past. If you install Ubuntu and then want a new Desktop Environment, it doesn't feel quite right, because the original install defined defaults that the new DE isn't setting itself for / against. On Windows I don't reformat anymore like I used to, and I used to reformat a lot because I w…
This is why I use Manjaro. DE keeps updating as does everything else; no reinstalls required.
Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script
#49Do your friends a favor and never run this or any like it on their systems "for their benefit".
This is a prime example of "expert user footgun problem".
The phrase "debloat" is a marketing-hype word that's being used to bait you all into someone's personal view of how computers should be. Expect to be forced to reinstall Windows 10 a few days or weeks after running any such script.
Whenever I tech support any of my friends, the first question I ask is "did you do expert-user things to your system?" and they say "well, I mean, I edited some Registry settings" and I just stop and tell them to reinstall Windows because it's time to amputate. I'll have to add "Have you ever opened Windows PowerShell?" to my list, because that'll catch all of these right out of the gate.
In case that's not reason enough to be afraid — check out this random sampling of changes this makes!
* "This script disables Windows Defender" — Because anti-malware protection is "bloat"
* "Disable 'Updates are available' message" — Because you shouldn't have to be notified when security updates are available for your system, for example to address zero-day RCEs
* "Windows Biometric Service" — And suddenly you can't face-login to your Windows 10 computer any longer, but hey, it's "bloat"
* "Disable easy access keyboard stuff" — Because no one would ever use keyboard accessibility, that's just "bloat"
* "Restoring old volume slider" — I would get that this was "debloat" if it removed the volume slider, but simply restoring an older one?
* "PandoraMediaInc.29680B314EFC2", "SpotifyAB.SpotifyMusic" — Hope you don't like streaming music, that's just "bloat" anyways
And, consider how easily this repo could be compromised to result in you self-infecting your computer with malware by running all of these scripts without a close review of the steps they take. First step in any persistent Windows infection is to disable Windows Defender and Windows Update notifications so the user doesn't take steps that might uninstall the persistent infection. Repo does that already, so it's not like it'd be difficult.
Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script
#50I tried running this and then I remembered why I stopped tweaking Windows, I wind up running into odd issues. Windows stopped being unstable for me years ago when I stopped fidgeting with features. I'm better off disabling as much as I can through the normal settings they provide. I don't know if it's just I'm doing something wrong but it's been my experience. I would love to see Windows not take up 4 gigs of RAM out…
> I would love to see Windows not take up 4 gigs of RAM out of the box. Let me uninstall Cortana please Microsoft. I'm sure there's other crap I don't want but I fear if I can't just hit 'Uninstall' it wont go well, or an update will bring it back. So much misinformation in this and the replies that address this. Windows needs a minimum of 2GB RAM to run. But it scales its memory footprint according to the available…
That is strange do you have any further points of reference on the matter? Preferrably a resource from Microsoft if possible.