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Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by 2T1Qka0rEiPr »

codetrotter wrote: post #16

This still leaves a lot of undesirable stuff on your system. Here, I prefer something like this. https://sourceforge.net/projects/dban/files/dban/dban-2.3.0/... Darik's Boot and Nuke — A hard drive disk wipe and data clearing utility And then download and install KDE Neon User Edition from https://neon.kde.org/download KDE Neon is a Linux distro based on Ubuntu. Yes I am being a bit facetious, sorry. But I am actuall…

I run Windows on my personal laptop - not because I love it, but because it certainly used to have a huge strong-hold on media and games apps, which I wanted a way of consuming.

I no longer game, but as I understand it, support for Linux has greatly improved. Also I used to watch Sky (UK), which is only available for Windows users (first because they were literally using Silverlight up until about a year ago, and now because its only available as an Electron app...).

For my next machine I think I'll just move to Ubuntu. Having said that, looking at some of the apps I do still use (such as VPNs, Google Drive, Spotify), many of them would either work less well, or simply not work at all. It's a shame, but what can you do?

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by qieja »

FluffyKitty wrote: post #8

I have to ask, for anyone that cares this much, why bother with Windows at this point? Wouldn't it be easier to just use Linux? I know the usual argument is that you need Windows to game, but why make your gaming instance your main work instance too? Why not dual boot and use Linux for work and Windows for gaming?

I need Win32 and DirectX.

I could do without Win32 but I'm a freelance, work from home, and sometimes I like to open a game to unwind for a couple minutes. That makes dual boot unfeasible.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by noir_lord »

FluffyKitty wrote: post #8

I have to ask, for anyone that cares this much, why bother with Windows at this point? Wouldn't it be easier to just use Linux? I know the usual argument is that you need Windows to game, but why make your gaming instance your main work instance too? Why not dual boot and use Linux for work and Windows for gaming?

I do dual boot.

I have windows for gaming/VR but zero development.

I have Fedora for literally everything else including C#/WPF development (I run my dev environment for windows inside a VM as it makes it very simple to backup and I know that the somewhat irritating setup is perfectly replicated).

Essentially at this point Win10 is relegated to been a massive console OS.

I could likely run a lot of my games on Linux but I'm not enough of a purist that the hassle makes it worth it, down time is precious and I'd rather not fight it debugging why a particular game is been weird.

I'm likely to upgrade my 2700X soon so I might slap an ATI card in alongside my RTX2080 so I can use the 2080 with an iommu pass through and then I could game on a separate windows VM inside Fedora.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by jniedrauer »

kabdib wrote: post #21
giancarlostoro wrote: post #3

I tried running this and then I remembered why I stopped tweaking Windows, I wind up running into odd issues. Windows stopped being unstable for me years ago when I stopped fidgeting with features. I'm better off disabling as much as I can through the normal settings they provide. I don't know if it's just I'm doing something wrong but it's been my experience. I would love to see Windows not take up 4 gigs of RAM out…

The biggest WTF was Cortana . . . running by default on Windows Server. I have no idea what they were thinking. Yes, you can disable it with a policy editing. For a server product, you shouldn't have to.

It's unsurprising to me that *nix systems are the majority on Azure. It is surprising to me that enterprise shops still commission new Windows servers at all in $current_year.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by jddj »

FluffyKitty wrote: post #8

I have to ask, for anyone that cares this much, why bother with Windows at this point? Wouldn't it be easier to just use Linux? I know the usual argument is that you need Windows to game, but why make your gaming instance your main work instance too? Why not dual boot and use Linux for work and Windows for gaming?

I keep an older windows laptop around for maintaining a couple of wpf and Xamarin apps.

Visual studio for mac might cut it, but I don't have a mac. My other laptop runs Linux and that's where I prefer to be.

But the truth is that while Microsoft have been spending lots of money and effort on making on-windows-for-linux dev simple, the reverse (understandably?) isn't viable.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by squarefoot »

lame-robot-hoax wrote: post #12

If you’re going go to all this trouble to “debloat” Windows, why not just install Fedora/Ubuntu/PopOS/Debian/Manjaro or something? I just don’t see the point with fiddling around with little hacks trying to disable telemetry and stuff when you can just install a Linux distro and be done with it. I mean sure depending on your use case that may not be possible, but if you don’t have a certain software or hardware limit…

Vendor lock-in. If the PP spent some good money for a Windows only software very specific to his job, then there's no chance to migrate: that would simply be too costly. In due time, maybe, should exist a Linux port/equivalent, the user should carefully weight the costs/benefits of say a FOSS solution that would cost zero, but would have no warranty and be community supported. (Actually isn't that extreme: support can be bought for Linux software as well)

It all boils down to what the user needs from Windows; migrating to a Linux machine plus Libreoffice for document work is one thing, moving complex vertical solutions to it is a whole different story. BTW, I'm totally in favor of ditching windows for good, but 30 years of technical and cultural lock-in are hard to fight.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by Krasnol »

It's astonishing how many de-bloat scripts, tools or functions of other tools this OS spawned. That should make the developers think...if it wasn't intended and they didn't give a damn because monopoly...

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by zlynx »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #9
mehrdadn wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I would love to see Windows not take up 4 gigs of RAM out of the box. It... doesn't? I feel like last time I tried it was less than 2? Did you only install Windows or a ton of other things too? This is what it looks like "out of the box" after disabling memory compression and the pagefile: https://imgur.com/a/D5b8bk5

On Windows 10? I closed everything except Firefox (and this HN tab), which is taking up 600MB of RAM, and now it's at 4.6GB of RAM. Before with two instances of GoLand, Slack and Discord open it was over at 8GB of RAM.

On a Windows 10 VM set to 2 GB of RAM, Windows idles at about 1.1 GB.

On a 16 GB Windows it uses about 7.5 GB. All of that seems to swap out or go away somewhere if I get busy with Visual Studio.

On a 64 GB Windows it seems to idle at about 9.6 GB used. Of course, this one isn't a purely work machine and has Steam, Origin, Ubisoft's thing, etc, etc.

So Windows 10 is pretty variable. I imagine it has something to do with running various services in parallel.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by jniedrauer »

FluffyKitty wrote: post #8

I have to ask, for anyone that cares this much, why bother with Windows at this point? Wouldn't it be easier to just use Linux? I know the usual argument is that you need Windows to game, but why make your gaming instance your main work instance too? Why not dual boot and use Linux for work and Windows for gaming?

I haven't used Windows as a daily driver in nearly a decade. I have to use it occasionally for work reasons and I'm always shocked by the Stockholm syndrome Windows users must have. Even just booting an OEM Windows machine for the first time raises my blood pressure. I hear that Cortana monologue in my nightmares.

Re: Windows 10 Debloat Script

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Post by BigChiefSmokem »

FluffyKitty wrote: post #8

I have to ask, for anyone that cares this much, why bother with Windows at this point? Wouldn't it be easier to just use Linux? I know the usual argument is that you need Windows to game, but why make your gaming instance your main work instance too? Why not dual boot and use Linux for work and Windows for gaming?

Maybe this is a good time to point out that Windows now comes with a Linux kernel. Not sure how this effects VM workflows. I used to run Mac with Parallels but now I just use pure Windows, just much less of a hassle especially with the release of tools such as VS Code.
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