After man says dog dewormer cured his cancer, researchers look into treatment • Hacker News Board

Re: After man says dog dewormer cured his cancer, researchers look into treatment

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Post by apo » Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 5:19 PM UTC

This story is very poorly organized. The structure is especially bad for scientific subjects because crucial details can be obfuscated.

Take this one for example, which appears well into the article:

> Part of Tippens’ treatment regimen was CBD.

Nowhere does the article describe in one place exactly what the treatment regimen was.

Was it just CBD + fenbendazole or other components? When did the CBD begin? Even the nature of the trial (?) that Tippens was part of (or not) during his cure is cloudy.

Re: After man says dog dewormer cured his cancer, researchers look into treatment

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Post by lazyjones » Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 5:19 PM UTC

Seems to be the same as this: https://www.odditycentral.com/news/man-claims-cheap-dog-dewo...

Apologies if this is stolen content etc. but I can't read the original in the EU apparently.

Re: After man says dog dewormer cured his cancer, researchers look into treatment

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Post by echelon » Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 5:20 PM UTC

Spixel wrote: post #2

451: Unavailable due to legal reasons We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact web@tulsaworld.com or call 918-581-8300.

This is one of the many viable options US companies have for dealing with EU traffic.

GDPR compliance can be extremely expensive to implement, especially for complex software comprised of thousands of microservices that handle customer data. And imagine working in an industry where data retention is legally mandated by other jurisdictions...

I'm not saying GDPR is bad (I'm all in favor!), but the costs can be quite large to implement to the letter of the law (GDPR export requirements, etc)

Re: After man says dog dewormer cured his cancer, researchers look into treatment

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Post by bryanrasmussen » Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 5:23 PM UTC

Spixel wrote: post #2

451: Unavailable due to legal reasons We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact web@tulsaworld.com or call 918-581-8300.

As I was trying to find a non gdpr resistant news article I happened to come across this https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9344028/cocaine-rot-skin-genit...

"COKE ROT Cocaine can ROT your skin and genitals – as drug is cut with dangerous cattle de-wormer, experts warn"

the interesting thing is in the article it says cocaine can be cut with Levamisole, which:

was used to treat arthritis and bowel cancer in the past, but it was banned for use by humans in 2000....Now, it's only supposed to be used in veterinary medicine to kill parasitic worms.

Re: After man says dog dewormer cured his cancer, researchers look into treatment

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Post by jcims » Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 5:23 PM UTC

This might be the paper from Johns Hopkins: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687140/

Re: After man says dog dewormer cured his cancer, researchers look into treatment

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Post by sillypudding » Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 5:27 PM UTC

[Speculation] This is interesting to me because Crohn’s Disease (and Inflammatory Bowel Disease in general) is known to respond to certain antibiotics such as Metronidazole and Ciprofloxacin [1]. Maybe a analogous action is at play here.

[1] https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/inflammatory_bowel_disease_c...

Re: After man says dog dewormer cured his cancer, researchers look into treatment

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Post by rlpb » Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 5:30 PM UTC

echelon wrote: post #13

Spixel wrote: post #2

451: Unavailable due to legal reasons We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact web@tulsaworld.com or call 918-581-8300.

This is one of the many viable options US companies have for dealing with EU traffic. GDPR compliance can be extremely expensive to implement, especially for complex software comprised of thousands of microservices that handle customer data. And imagine working in an industry where data retention is legally mandated by other jurisdictions... I'm not saying GDPR is bad (I'm all in favor!), but the costs can be quite l…

> GDPR compliance can be extremely expensive to implement...

Bullshit. It's trivial to implement. Don't store my personal data. Done.

It may be extremely expensive to store and process my personal data and remain GDPR compliant, if you insist on doing that. And admittedly it may be expensive to store and process others' personal data while excluding EU citizens from that mechanism. But the blanket statement "GDPR compliance can be extremely expensive to implement" is on its own extremely misleading in this context.

> And imagine working in an industry where data retention is legally mandated by other jurisdictions...

Perhaps, but this is not relevant to a news organisation publishing a general article online from the USA, where (AFAIK) there is no such data retention requirement in any jurisdiction within the USA.

Re: After man says dog dewormer cured his cancer, researchers look into treatment

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Post by ionwake » Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 5:30 PM UTC

sillypudding wrote: post #16

[Speculation] This is interesting to me because Crohn’s Disease (and Inflammatory Bowel Disease in general) is known to respond to certain antibiotics such as Metronidazole and Ciprofloxacin [1]. Maybe a analogous action is at play here. [1] https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/inflammatory_bowel_disease_c...

could it also improve athritic conditions? I have heard they are related to gut biome aswell

Re: After man says dog dewormer cured his cancer, researchers look into treatment

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Post by tepidandroid » Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 5:31 PM UTC

Not to oversimplify the complexities of cancer or anything, but for some reason, Peter Hintjens’ (creator of zeromq) suspicions about the primary cause of his own cancer came to mind after reading this [1].

”As for not getting cancer… the probable cause in my case was a parasite called a liver fluke, which attaches to the bile duct and produces carcinogens. Nature is nice like that. The parasite comes from farmed fresh-water fish. The cancer I had is a major cause of death in SE Asia. I think it was cheap sushi that almost killed me.”

[1] http://hintjens.com/blog:109

Re: After man says dog dewormer cured his cancer, researchers look into treatment

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Post by ricardobeat » Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 5:32 PM UTC

lazyjones wrote: post #12

Seems to be the same as this: https://www.odditycentral.com/news/man-claims-cheap-dog-dewo... Apologies if this is stolen content etc. but I can't read the original in the EU apparently.

This URL also returns “Not found” in the EU.