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I see “modern day slavery” and I stop reading. There are no whips. No rape. No families torn apart. No slave ships. Grow up people.
I don't like what I hear about working conditions and agree it should be improved, and I also agree this is not slavery.
One of the biggest issues seems the problem with bathroom breaks and time lost doing so. Why does Amazon not put more bathrooms in the warehouses, so it doesnt take 10 minutes just to walk there and back? That's like a distance of more then half a mile... Not drinking any water during ones shift doesn't seem a healthy solution.
Amazon reduces costs by only having the minimum number of bathrooms legally required regardless of the size of the warehouse.
I see “modern day slavery” and I stop reading. There are no whips. No rape. No families torn apart. No slave ships. Grow up people.
Anyways, I did you the service of explaining why you would get voted down. If you aren't going to read something, and you have nothing useful to add, don't bother commenting. Comments like yours don't contribute anything useful and only harm HN.
One of the biggest issues seems the problem with bathroom breaks and time lost doing so. Why does Amazon not put more bathrooms in the warehouses, so it doesnt take 10 minutes just to walk there and back? That's like a distance of more then half a mile... Not drinking any water during ones shift doesn't seem a healthy solution.
>Why does Amazon not put more bathrooms in the warehouses, so it doesnt take 10 minutes just to walk there and back? That's like a distance of more then half a mile... Amazon reduces costs by only having the minimum number of bathrooms legally required regardless of the size of the warehouse.
Why do hourly employees care how long your lunch break is? At least in the US it's usually not counted as work time. Assuming people clock out for the lunch break, I don't see why they'd care if it's 30m or 2hr, since people could just make up the hours by working later. Although I suppose it depends on the type of work being done.
Because you have a ten hour shift of difficult labor and twenty minutes of your thirty minute break is taken up with walking. And if you're in a FC with robots the time it takes for the Kivas to arrive at your station counts against you because you're expected to start working thirty minutes after your break starts, so on top of everything else you have to end your break early to make that time up.
>I don't see why they'd care if it's 30m or 2hr, since people could just make up the hours by working later.
I'm not aware of any business that allows its employees to take arbitrarily long breaks or to work arbitrary extra hours to "make it up." If such a company exists, Amazon is definitely not one of them.
One of the biggest issues seems the problem with bathroom breaks and time lost doing so. Why does Amazon not put more bathrooms in the warehouses, so it doesnt take 10 minutes just to walk there and back? That's like a distance of more then half a mile... Not drinking any water during ones shift doesn't seem a healthy solution.
Because it's often about the "piece of paper" cost. What I mean by this is explicit costs and savings are preferred by management: they can point to their bosses, wave a sheet of paper, and say, "See, I saved twenty-six dollars here!" In reality, it may have cost fifty dollars, but that doesn't matter. It's the same reason why we have open offices, "hot desks", and improper tools: the incentive structure is wrong.
I see “modern day slavery” and I stop reading. There are no whips. No rape. No families torn apart. No slave ships. Grow up people.
One of the biggest issues seems the problem with bathroom breaks and time lost doing so. Why does Amazon not put more bathrooms in the warehouses, so it doesnt take 10 minutes just to walk there and back? That's like a distance of more then half a mile... Not drinking any water during ones shift doesn't seem a healthy solution.
Yet again we see that the true cost not the listed price is. I wonder who approves these conditions in the company, or whether it is just some general company management culture embedded in the system.
Fulfillment center employees also searched for theft after their shift every day. Not only is this dehumanizing, but they don't hire enough security people. This results in 20+ minute lines. The employees are unpaid while waiting. There was a lawsuit about this that went all the way to the Supreme Court, and Amazon won.
One of the biggest issues seems the problem with bathroom breaks and time lost doing so. Why does Amazon not put more bathrooms in the warehouses, so it doesnt take 10 minutes just to walk there and back? That's like a distance of more then half a mile... Not drinking any water during ones shift doesn't seem a healthy solution.
Is there a formula for non adversarial job structures ?