Netflix CEO may have missed the real reason why US subscriber numbers plunged

Post by ljm » Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 1:20 AM UTC

addicted wrote: post #190

Alupis wrote: post #178

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> They got into content creation and they're now deep in debt despite their massive subscriber base. I've found that while Netflix has some decent original content - the overwhelming majority of it is garbage and totally uninteresting. Sometimes I feel some of the Netflix Originals where mothballed from normal venues, so Netflix picked it up, failing to realize why nobody else wanted to produce it in the first place.…

The best Netflix originals are the British shows they've rebranded as Netflix originals in the US. The actual Netflix created ones have largely missed the mark for me.

Post by goalieca » Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 1:22 AM UTC

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SkyPuncher wrote: post #145

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Having listened to podcasts with several important Netflix people as guests, I have picked up that they are unintentionally user hostile. They're so focused on data that it seems they completely forget about the intangible side of enjoying the user experience. Seems like they can't see the forest for the trees.

The problem is that optimizing for long-term satisfaction metrics is extremely tricky and hard. Such metrics lead to the better user retention, potentially even with less watch time. Paradoxically higher watch time may lead to lower user satisfaction (and decreased retention). In ML world these metrics require combining DNNs with methods like Q-learning. YouTube learned these lessons and now probably has the most adv…

Post by mcantelon » Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 1:24 AM UTC

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>Usually when we feel like what we're watching is not political, it's actually because it's simply political in ways that we identify with or do not find offensive. I'd be interested to see a show that has nationalistic/right-wing assumptions. Any good examples?

Every military show or show about terrorists? The Six is a Seal Team 6 show. Anne Heche just had a show called The Brave that got cancelled. The Last Ship is military science fiction. I admit that it's going to be very difficult to find an explicit white nationalist show, but military/terrorist paranoid-style shows are a dime a dozen.

Post by droithomme » Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 1:28 AM UTC

heymijo wrote: post #6

> If video streaming subscribers don’t know what they want to watch, they’re almost twice as likely to tune into their favorite broadcast television channel (58%) rather than browse through the menus of their streaming services (33%), according to the research from Nielsen. > Research by behavioral psychologists has shown that too many choices can overwhelm consumers, create the unpleasant feeling known as “decision…

Post by jl2718 » Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 1:30 AM UTC

IanDrake wrote: post #200

At some point Netflix got woke and for me that killed it. Most Netflix originals prioritized a political message first and entertainment a distant second. I don't need to get my values from entertainers, of all people.