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Re: History and Effective Use of Vim

#41

Post by feiss »

I used vim for years, but then Sublime appeared.. although I miss the snappiness of vim, and wouldn't mind to come back. Specifically, I'd miss these nice features of Sublime:

1. Multiple cursors!! (and how easy is to use them)

2. Real-time preview of regex search

3. Package Manager (easy installation and discoverability of plugins)

4. Jump to file, jump to function, jump to css selector.. (ctrl+p, ctrl+r, using fuzzy search)

5. Project tree in small font (many files at sight)

Edit: Here there is a bunch of good stuff: https://medium.com/@huntie/10-essential-vim-plugins-for-2018...

Re: History and Effective Use of Vim

#42

Post by Izkata »

Foober223 wrote: post #38

> Oct 2010 - Feb 2014 : Vundle (Discontinued after NeoBundle ripped off code) Looks like Vundle has an MIT license. rip off usually implies something negative or dishonest. Copying MIT licensed code is a normal and encouraged activity.

Also has a few commits since then. The impression I get from the repo is that it's "done", not "discontinued".

Re: History and Effective Use of Vim

#43

Post by emsy »

I rarely ever use actual vim, mostly when I'm in the terminal. But I have vim plugins for most IDEs I use (VS code, intellij, XCode). It makes editing so much faster. When I have to get by without it I feel as if someone put weights around my wrists. The reason I don't use Vim is because it's frankly not a smooth experience for most languages (unless you fiddle around a lot, and even then I found Ide+vim plug-in superior). I do hope Neovim will solve this, though I didn't test it because the last time I checked windows support was experimental.

Re: History and Effective Use of Vim

#44

Post by magduf »

stirfrykitty wrote: post #18

Been using vim since 1998 and rarely stray unless I'm typing notes for something unimportant and them I use Nano. Back in the day when I was a Unix admin, we often worked in full screen terminals and when editing a config file didn't like having to close the vim instance to go look at something, so learned about this little gem: :sh (go back to shell and do your thing and leave vim running) Ctrl-d to return to intact…

I wouldn't even use nano for typing notes; I'm so used to vim that I don't see why I wouldn't want its powers, even for something as simple as writing notes. I might very well want to reorder the notes, for instance: that's very easy in vim with dd/p. nano might have some Ctrl-key combo that does the same thing, but why bother learning that when I already know vim?

Re: History and Effective Use of Vim

#45

Post by dllthomas »

feiss wrote: post #41

I used vim for years, but then Sublime appeared.. although I miss the snappiness of vim, and wouldn't mind to come back. Specifically, I'd miss these nice features of Sublime: 1. Multiple cursors!! (and how easy is to use them) 2. Real-time preview of regex search 3. Package Manager (easy installation and discoverability of plugins) 4. Jump to file, jump to function, jump to css selector.. (ctrl+p, ctrl+r, using fuzz…

> 2. Real-time preview of regex search

Doesn't vim have this by default these days?

Re: History and Effective Use of Vim

#46

Post by pvg »

urda wrote: post #12
Diederich wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup. I've been using vi[m] on an almost daily basis since about 1989...wow, that's 30 years. In those decades, I have resisted putting anything in my .vi[m]rc except: set tabstop=4 set expandtab set shiftwidth=4 set shiftround That's it. And I agree with you, it's a very happy place for me.

What made you pick those 4 if I may ask?

Every thousand years this metal sphere ten times the size of Jupiter floats just a few yards past the Earth. You climb on your roof and take a swipe at it with a single feather. Hit it once every thousand years til you've worn it down to the size of a pea.

Same thing but start with the biggest vim config you can find.

Re: History and Effective Use of Vim

#47

Post by haolez »

feiss wrote: post #41

I used vim for years, but then Sublime appeared.. although I miss the snappiness of vim, and wouldn't mind to come back. Specifically, I'd miss these nice features of Sublime: 1. Multiple cursors!! (and how easy is to use them) 2. Real-time preview of regex search 3. Package Manager (easy installation and discoverability of plugins) 4. Jump to file, jump to function, jump to css selector.. (ctrl+p, ctrl+r, using fuzz…

I've grown quite dependent on multiple cursors myself. Supposedly, Kakoune is a vim-like editor with good multiple cursors support.

http://kakoune.org/

Re: History and Effective Use of Vim

#48

Post by dllthomas »

jLyrrad wrote: post #8

I remember the first time I ran `vimtutor` in my terminal. A lot changed since then! Although I just stick with defaults since I have my IDE for my day-to-day job.

Also of note, the first part of https://vim-adventures.com is fun. I expect the rest is too, but I got sticker shock when I went to buy. Probably worth it for someone who doesn't already know vim well, though.

Re: History and Effective Use of Vim

#49

Post by Accacin »

dllthomas wrote: post #45
feiss wrote: post #41

I used vim for years, but then Sublime appeared.. although I miss the snappiness of vim, and wouldn't mind to come back. Specifically, I'd miss these nice features of Sublime: 1. Multiple cursors!! (and how easy is to use them) 2. Real-time preview of regex search 3. Package Manager (easy installation and discoverability of plugins) 4. Jump to file, jump to function, jump to css selector.. (ctrl+p, ctrl+r, using fuzz…

> 2. Real-time preview of regex search Doesn't vim have this by default these days?

Yeah, I think what they want are the options

  set hlsearch
  set incsearch

Re: History and Effective Use of Vim

#50

Post by layoutIfNeeded »

Diederich wrote: post #11
2bitencryption wrote: post #2

After years of a love/hate relationship with Vim (I love what it does, but have configuring it), I had an epiphany: by sticking with the defaults, whether they are my preferred choices or not, I can instantly understand how to use Vim in any environment. Once you get used to biting the bullet and hitting escape instead of jj, or ctrl+c, it just works, everywhere. If you abandon the urge to pimp out your Vim with a bi…

Yup. I've been using vi[m] on an almost daily basis since about 1989...wow, that's 30 years. In those decades, I have resisted putting anything in my .vi[m]rc except: set tabstop=4 set expandtab set shiftwidth=4 set shiftround That's it. And I agree with you, it's a very happy place for me.

set nu
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