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Trump Says U.S. Ship Shot Down Iranian Drone in Strait of Hormuz

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Where in this article does it cite "electronic jamming"? Just curious where the title is from here as it doesn't seem to match the article

Submitted title was 'U.S. Destroys Iranian drone using “electronic jamming”'. We changed it to the article title as the site guidelines ask.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Let's just agree that anyone's drones are completely fair game for anyone else with the means to destroy them. Their destruction is not justification for anything other than a claim for damages in court.

>Their destruction is not justification for anything other than a claim for damages in court. No one is going ballistic over downed drones (not yet at least), but only damages? C'mon, be serious. These things are often classified tech in their own right and may contain classified information. Back and forth like this between sovereign countries is not really a matter for a civil court.

Not true. Trump nearly retaliated over a downed drone with an attack estimated to cost Iranians 100 lives. He called it off at the last minute when confronted with the potential death toll.

I like to think that was all theatre for the benefit of Iran, but you never can tell with trump between crazy on purpose and well just crazy.

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Where in this article does it cite "electronic jamming"? Just curious where the title is from here as it doesn't seem to match the article

They presumably first read an article on another site such as CNN that mentions electronic jamming: https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/18/politics/trump-us-destroyed-i... but then decided to share an article based on it from a particular well known source such as WSJ in this case, that happens not to mention what they included in the title. So yes, the person should have shared the actual article they read and that they bas…

My fault. That's exactly what happened. I saw it first on CNN, but posted the WSJ article (just because I find WSJ to generally be a better source), but it was only after posting that I realized the WSJ didn't mention "electronic jamming", which was actually the reason why I thought it was interesting to HN in the first place. Curious why the WSJ did not mention that.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Their destruction is not justification for anything other than a claim for damages in court. No one is going ballistic over downed drones (not yet at least), but only damages? C'mon, be serious. These things are often classified tech in their own right and may contain classified information. Back and forth like this between sovereign countries is not really a matter for a civil court.

Not true. Trump nearly retaliated over a downed drone with an attack estimated to cost Iranians 100 lives. He called it off at the last minute when confronted with the potential death toll. I like to think that was all theatre for the benefit of Iran, but you never can tell with trump between crazy on purpose and well just crazy.

>Not true. Trump nearly retaliated over a downed drone with an attack estimated to cost Iranians 100 lives. He called it off at the last minute when confronted with the potential death toll.

Sure, and how many appalling things does Trump "nearly" do each week? The guy's mouth leaks like a sieve and I don't imagine you really believe he received a casualty estimate mere minutes before giving the go ahead. That is not at all how these things work. His story made no sense at all... unless he was lying to both frighten Iran and appear empathetic at home. Your second sentence is far more likely than your first.

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"Iran’s announcement came after days of speculation that a United Arab Emirates-based tanker had been captured by Iran after vanishing from radars."

I find this quite WTF, but nice that not everything is tracked, but still WTF.

Conformation it's was LMADIS

"Here's the New Marine Corps Weapon that Just Destroyed an Iranian Drone"

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/07/18/heres-new-mar...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not true. Trump nearly retaliated over a downed drone with an attack estimated to cost Iranians 100 lives. He called it off at the last minute when confronted with the potential death toll. I like to think that was all theatre for the benefit of Iran, but you never can tell with trump between crazy on purpose and well just crazy.

>Not true. Trump nearly retaliated over a downed drone with an attack estimated to cost Iranians 100 lives. He called it off at the last minute when confronted with the potential death toll. Sure, and how many appalling things does Trump "nearly" do each week? The guy's mouth leaks like a sieve and I don't imagine you really believe he received a casualty estimate mere minutes before giving the go ahead. That is not…

Likely, but we don't know. So you can't just brush it off and say nobody is overreacting to downed drones, clearly one very important party is.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Not true. Trump nearly retaliated over a downed drone with an attack estimated to cost Iranians 100 lives. He called it off at the last minute when confronted with the potential death toll. Sure, and how many appalling things does Trump "nearly" do each week? The guy's mouth leaks like a sieve and I don't imagine you really believe he received a casualty estimate mere minutes before giving the go ahead. That is not…

Likely, but we don't know. So you can't just brush it off and say nobody is overreacting to downed drones, clearly one very important party is.

>So you can't just brush it off and say nobody is overreacting

"Acting" is a fairly important part of the word "overreacting". There were no actions, so there was no overreaction. You know Trump better than this by now.

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It was mentioned somewhere that the USS Boxer had the LMADIS. This article has a bit more about it: https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2019... The LMADIS is entirely EW (electronic warfare) with no direct kinetic kill ability.

What makes that really interesting is that the Marines are strapping land vehicles onto ships to add capability. This is such a hack. Want another weapon or sensor for the ship? Add an entire truck that has it, including the wheels and engine and everything else. Somebody gets to sit in the truck.
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