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How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

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Re: How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

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This is interesting. I'm starting to make a computer security course right now and I've chosen to put it on pornhub. The monetization options are better for creators (I can sell videos!). Obviously, pornhub is going to restrict the audience a bit, so I've been toying with the idea of making a video hosting site with solid monetization options and categories of ads beyond porn. I think the biggest thing I don't unders…

> I'm starting to make a computer security course right now and I've chosen to put it on pornhub. The monetization options are better for creators I find this hilarious, but at the same time I am wondering whether you're serious? I'm confused now..

Didn't this happen not long ago with gun streamers?

Re: How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

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This article should say - you can't compete with google using google. The "final blow" was adsense being cutoff. Their revenue model to compete with google was ... adsense. OK. Their traffic model was google search. Ok. Between the lines it sounds like some aggressive SEO, and maybe the network click bounce thing (you click on one video, and then it clicks through to another site etc). Be curious what their content m…

> The paying of creators definitely anti-competitive.

Its actually very common practice and has been for a very long time (way before 2007). Once people get mindshare, they get offers. The top you tubers, twitch streamers, etc have negotiated contracts with terms that are very different that what a standard creator has.

Think of it just like Hollywood. The top talents are sough after and franchises are built around them, the rest have to audition.

Re: How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

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Hi, I was really screwed by Tech Giant Companies many times in my life for a big money. But now, here I am reborn to bring justice. I reported 1 case to the European Commission and cases like mine led to a new law which was introduced last month: "Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight!" https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...

If somebody is too lazy too read. Search providers have to publish their search algorithm inside European union within one year from the date of publication

Re: How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

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This article should say - you can't compete with google using google. The "final blow" was adsense being cutoff. Their revenue model to compete with google was ... adsense. OK. Their traffic model was google search. Ok. Between the lines it sounds like some aggressive SEO, and maybe the network click bounce thing (you click on one video, and then it clicks through to another site etc). Be curious what their content m…

Nothing you said is wrong, but that is part of the problem right? To do anything online, you have to use google to some extent, so how can you compete in the first place? Google is already a monopoly in search which makes it impossible to make something online that requires search (ie., almost everything) and have it properly compete.

Hey, if you want to compete with Standard Oil just build your own railroad line.

Re: How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

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This article should say - you can't compete with google using google. The "final blow" was adsense being cutoff. Their revenue model to compete with google was ... adsense. OK. Their traffic model was google search. Ok. Between the lines it sounds like some aggressive SEO, and maybe the network click bounce thing (you click on one video, and then it clicks through to another site etc). Be curious what their content m…

Nothing you said is wrong, but that is part of the problem right? To do anything online, you have to use google to some extent, so how can you compete in the first place? Google is already a monopoly in search which makes it impossible to make something online that requires search (ie., almost everything) and have it properly compete.

Exactly. You may as well try to compete with a railroad monopoly while at the same time not using any of their existing rail infrastructure. Good fucking luck.

Re: How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

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This article should say - you can't compete with google using google. The "final blow" was adsense being cutoff. Their revenue model to compete with google was ... adsense. OK. Their traffic model was google search. Ok. Between the lines it sounds like some aggressive SEO, and maybe the network click bounce thing (you click on one video, and then it clicks through to another site etc). Be curious what their content m…

Sort of hard to avoid google when they control 90% ads traffic.

Re: How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

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This is interesting. I'm starting to make a computer security course right now and I've chosen to put it on pornhub. The monetization options are better for creators (I can sell videos!). Obviously, pornhub is going to restrict the audience a bit, so I've been toying with the idea of making a video hosting site with solid monetization options and categories of ads beyond porn. I think the biggest thing I don't unders…

I think we will eventually see VideoHub or something along those lines with a similar hosting platform from the PornHub company, just for non-porn.

They may try it--they have the expertise, and the infrastructure--but I think they will try to separate the brands, and I doubt they will be able to do better than vimeo.

Re: How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

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> At one point, I believe it was over 74 million and after a Google search change, that number went down to less than 12 million overnight, so all the backlinks, all the websites that were linking to my site, that boosted my rank, that gave my site a good search cloud. This was all organic. I did not use tricks or anything deceptive. This was all organic traffic. These were all organic backlinks and all of a sudden G…

Yeah, that sounds just like the conspiracy that Yelp shakes down restaurants if they don't pay. Yet still waiting to see actual proof of this.
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