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Re: How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

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Post by TACIXAT »

This is interesting. I'm starting to make a computer security course right now and I've chosen to put it on pornhub. The monetization options are better for creators (I can sell videos!). Obviously, pornhub is going to restrict the audience a bit, so I've been toying with the idea of making a video hosting site with solid monetization options and categories of ads beyond porn.

I think the biggest thing I don't understand is CDNs and delivering the video quickly. If I get some traction in the course, maybe I could launch a site with that content. The monetization options on YouTube are just lacking. You have ads or 5$ / mo subscriptions (if you have 100k subscribers).

My model is going to be 90% free videos with just the solutions to assignments paid. I'll make a small bit on ads, but mostly through 1$ video sales. I was going to offer pdf chapters for each module as well, but since ph only allows image formats and it would be a lot of work to write, I've nixed that idea.

Re: How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

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Post by privateSFacct »

This article should say - you can't compete with google using google.

The "final blow" was adsense being cutoff. Their revenue model to compete with google was ... adsense. OK.

Their traffic model was google search. Ok.

Between the lines it sounds like some aggressive SEO, and maybe the network click bounce thing (you click on one video, and then it clicks through to another site etc). Be curious what their content moderation story was.

Seriously, if you are building a google competitor, you probably need to use something other than adsense. And a reminder, adsense is a key revenue generation value add.

The paying of creators definitely anti-competitive. I do think there will be a youtube alternative (small scale) eventually.

The problem is a lot of these "competitors" get filled with absolutely trash / hateful content right away because the first people to use them are the rejects from youtube and the moderation teams are so glad to have someone show up they don't moderate heavily enough. Checkout some of the reddit competitors, total disgusting trash.

Re: How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

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Post by itcrowd »

TACIXAT wrote: post #11

This is interesting. I'm starting to make a computer security course right now and I've chosen to put it on pornhub. The monetization options are better for creators (I can sell videos!). Obviously, pornhub is going to restrict the audience a bit, so I've been toying with the idea of making a video hosting site with solid monetization options and categories of ads beyond porn. I think the biggest thing I don't unders…

> I'm starting to make a computer security course right now and I've chosen to put it on pornhub. The monetization options are better for creators

I find this hilarious, but at the same time I am wondering whether you're serious? I'm confused now..

Re: How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

#16

Post by blueboo »

yongjik wrote: post #5

> At one point, I believe it was over 74 million and after a Google search change, that number went down to less than 12 million overnight, so all the backlinks, all the websites that were linking to my site, that boosted my rank, that gave my site a good search cloud. This was all organic. I did not use tricks or anything deceptive. This was all organic traffic. These were all organic backlinks and all of a sudden G…

Best practices are being followed now; but a large sales team at its worst more than ten years ago might be caught out in bad behavior.

Less plausible is the scenario of failing as a result of ad-pay for search-play. If the equation is proven out, then he, a rational and effective founder, would’ve paid!—And his site would’ve played another day.

Or are we supposed to read an implication that it was worth burning the company to the ground to take a principled stand against 2008 Google?

Meanwhile, the traffic claims defy belief. Livevideo failed to launch.

Re: How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

#17

Post by Havoc »

TACIXAT wrote: post #11

This is interesting. I'm starting to make a computer security course right now and I've chosen to put it on pornhub. The monetization options are better for creators (I can sell videos!). Obviously, pornhub is going to restrict the audience a bit, so I've been toying with the idea of making a video hosting site with solid monetization options and categories of ads beyond porn. I think the biggest thing I don't unders…

Can't tell if serious. But just in case- ph is blocked by pretty much every corporate network in existence right. That might put a bit of a dent in which computer security experts can access the content.

I suppose getting to the content by bypassing firewalls could be part of the learning experience lol

Re: How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

#18

Post by aexol »

Hi, I was really screwed by Tech Giant Companies many times in my life for a big money. But now, here I am reborn to bring justice. I reported 1 case to the European Commission and cases like mine led to a new law which was introduced last month:

"Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight!"

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Re: How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

#19

Post by friedegg »

TACIXAT wrote: post #11

This is interesting. I'm starting to make a computer security course right now and I've chosen to put it on pornhub. The monetization options are better for creators (I can sell videos!). Obviously, pornhub is going to restrict the audience a bit, so I've been toying with the idea of making a video hosting site with solid monetization options and categories of ads beyond porn. I think the biggest thing I don't unders…

I think we will eventually see VideoHub or something along those lines with a similar hosting platform from the PornHub company, just for non-porn.

Re: How I tried to compete with YouTube and Google with Livevideo.com

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Post by noobermin »

privateSFacct wrote: post #14

This article should say - you can't compete with google using google. The "final blow" was adsense being cutoff. Their revenue model to compete with google was ... adsense. OK. Their traffic model was google search. Ok. Between the lines it sounds like some aggressive SEO, and maybe the network click bounce thing (you click on one video, and then it clicks through to another site etc). Be curious what their content m…

Nothing you said is wrong, but that is part of the problem right? To do anything online, you have to use google to some extent, so how can you compete in the first place? Google is already a monopoly in search which makes it impossible to make something online that requires search (ie., almost everything) and have it properly compete.
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