LOL people keep posting their entire life on Instagram, and now FaceApp is the danger.
FaceApp Now Owns Access to More Than 150M People's Faces and Names
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think FaceApp in particular strikes a chord in the United States because it's owned by a Russian Company. Name + faces (and therefore age and gender and race) + Location is the kind of data that enabled a lot of granular facebook ad targeting in 2016.
As someone who is not an American citizen and does not live in the United-States, I get the same fears and issues from companies based in the US. I distrust the American and Russian governments and companies equally.
As a Mexican, I honestly distrust Trump more than Putin.
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
Faceapp knows what 150M faces look like. That concentration of information is valuable. Google built a fortune by taking freely available information and organizing it for easy access. In the case of faceapp there are many nefarious actors who could serve as clients.
I'd also add that facial recognition is also becoming more common as a way to authenticate into systems. This might be a naive analogy, but, this feels like thousands of people providing a company with their name and their phone's lock screen combination.
> providing a company with their name and their phone's lock screen combination
In consumer devices the face data is stored only on-device, so any privacy concerns are defended by "it's not sending your face to the cloud" and/or "don't use it if you don't trust it"
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
One is owned and operated in a country of authoritarian-level data-collection and massive public propaganda and the other is owned and operated by a company in Russian which isn't any better but still determines the media narrative.
Especially after Cambridge Analytica, it honestly wouldn't be too much of a tin foil hat theory to imagine a world where state actors such as the IRA would come up with a viral app like this to scoop up data and influence the elections again.
>state actors such as the IRA
Can you elaborate on the IRA == state actor part?
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
On iOS is't possible to ask the system to present a photo picker on behalf of the app without requiring a permission to look into your photos.
I'm not an iOS developer but if it does exist not many apps use it. Snapchat, MS Teams, Discord, and a few others don't do it by default at least.
The iOS-native UI is not customizable, that should be the main reason.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
Especially after Cambridge Analytica, it honestly wouldn't be too much of a tin foil hat theory to imagine a world where state actors such as the IRA would come up with a viral app like this to scoop up data and influence the elections again.
>state actors such as the IRA Can you elaborate on the IRA == state actor part?
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#157The coverage on FaceApp and the way they talk about it is ridiculous. When it comes for instance to Snapchat's numbers, the coverage is about the success of the company. How is FaceApp different than all other apps and social networks that are storing all your photos with location and tags to your friends except that FaceApp is a Russian company? I'm not defending FaceApp. I don't use social networks either for the s…
Side point, I also don’t use social media app but at this point it doesn’t matter. 3 of my friends sent me my faceapp photo. No way to escape this.
Out of curiosity, how different were the three pictures in their prediction?
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#158We keep harping on about privacy, and then shit like this happens. There are two possible conclusions to draw. One is that the general public actually doesn’t care about privacy at all. It’s a niche concern. The other is that the general public cares but is completely and utterly clueless about how to defend themselves, to the point that an app can literally say “give us your name and face and we can do whatever we w…
The general public didn't know that the application was saying "give us your name and face and we can do whatever we want with it..." They had no idea that this was even a thing. I would bet hard earned money that the average person installed this application because a friend told them and they were curious. This bit about what happens to their image and what data does the app save locally verses pushing out to the n…
>> The general public didn't know that the application was saying "give us your name and face and we can do whatever we want with it..." They had no idea that this was even a thing.
Because EULAs and "terms of service" and "privacy policy" are all bullshit that nobody reads and should not have legally binding consequences or obligations. Peope have come to treat those things like a simple OK button but the law says otherwise. This company could produce deep-fakes with users heads on them and claim it's OK by their ToS and they might be right.
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
Especially after Cambridge Analytica, it honestly wouldn't be too much of a tin foil hat theory to imagine a world where state actors such as the IRA would come up with a viral app like this to scoop up data and influence the elections again.
>state actors such as the IRA Can you elaborate on the IRA == state actor part?
Internet Research Agency
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency
Were you thinking the Irish Republican Army?
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#160The coverage on FaceApp and the way they talk about it is ridiculous. When it comes for instance to Snapchat's numbers, the coverage is about the success of the company. How is FaceApp different than all other apps and social networks that are storing all your photos with location and tags to your friends except that FaceApp is a Russian company? I'm not defending FaceApp. I don't use social networks either for the s…
Coming from a person that did not take issue with the “Russia aspect” - The only part that sticks out to me is when the article implied you have to give it access to all of your photos.
In my brief usage of other social media apps like Snapchat, Instagram, and Facebook. Each photo you decide to share is opt-in.
The article also mentioned they run a job to continuously check in. Not sure if that’s to capture current GPS info, or to continually grab new photos. That seems a bit overzealous for what the app reportedly does. (editing pictures of your face)