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Option 3: No one read the terms of services, and 99% of the app users are not even aware of that, didn't even give it a passing thought.
Are terms of service somewhat consistent in their language? And if that's the case, couldn't someone build something that scans Terms across products and summarize what exactly it is you are giving up by accepting the Terms?
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The general public doesn't have the knowledge or even imagination to understand that sharing your information with nameless/faceless organizations may have downsides re: privacy. The others have been brainwashed well enough to believe that only criminals need privacy, so they don't care. By now using the "I have nothing to hide" example is cliche but it's literally the response I _always_ get when I bring up privacy…
What argument do you use to prove them wrong?
Usually the medical test thing is enough to shut them up.
Anyway there are many such example arguments around the internet, just DuckDuckGo "nothing to hide". There's even a Wikipedia article about it [1].
Edit: Oh, I often give Uber's deleted posts about how they know their users had one-night stands as an example too. See [2] and [3] for one of the deleted posts.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument [2] https://money.cnn.com/2014/11/25/technology/uber-prostitutes... [3] https://web.archive.org/web/20140827195715/http://blog.uber....
We keep harping on about privacy, and then shit like this happens. There are two possible conclusions to draw. One is that the general public actually doesn’t care about privacy at all. It’s a niche concern. The other is that the general public cares but is completely and utterly clueless about how to defend themselves, to the point that an app can literally say “give us your name and face and we can do whatever we w…
I think the devs of this app need a slap on the wrist for being party to this nonsense as well.
Every one I know is already using either Facebook Messenger (which has the same face scanning features) and/or Snapchat (which also has this feature). This is not new. I've been using FaceApp since its release. There are a lot of other similar apps that I've used in the past. Especially makeup simulator apps. BeautyPlus, YouCal, InstaBeauty, BeautyCam, Facetune, Photo Plastic, Visage Lab, etc.
I think FaceApp in particular strikes a chord in the United States because it's owned by a Russian Company. Name + faces (and therefore age and gender and race) + Location is the kind of data that enabled a lot of granular facebook ad targeting in 2016.
We keep harping on about privacy, and then shit like this happens. There are two possible conclusions to draw. One is that the general public actually doesn’t care about privacy at all. It’s a niche concern. The other is that the general public cares but is completely and utterly clueless about how to defend themselves, to the point that an app can literally say “give us your name and face and we can do whatever we w…
Is "what your face looks like" private information? You publicly display your face everywhere you go all the time. It's not really practical to hide it. Likewise your name you pretty much freely give out to anyone who asks. Is that private information? So Faceapp knows "There's a person with this name who looks like this". Was that supposed to be a secret? I'm concerned about privacy too, but it seems like some peopl…
>Is "what your face looks like" private information? I think it's the linkage of the name and the face. Either of those things alone don't seem like private information, but together, I would argue they are private. I can't provide a good reason as to why I think that yet though.
We keep harping on about privacy, and then shit like this happens. There are two possible conclusions to draw. One is that the general public actually doesn’t care about privacy at all. It’s a niche concern. The other is that the general public cares but is completely and utterly clueless about how to defend themselves, to the point that an app can literally say “give us your name and face and we can do whatever we w…
Option 3: No one read the terms of services, and 99% of the app users are not even aware of that, didn't even give it a passing thought.
Or, it's not hard to imagine this even bring a completely legit company. I'm sure it's easy enough now for the Russian government to find something wrong they did and demand to see all the data they collected.
And finally, even if it's a legit company and they somehow have enough legal protection in Russia to about sharing data with the government, they're probably not the hardest security target in the world for any rogue operator to steal their data.
Bottom line, don't put all your trust in a ToS.
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What argument do you use to prove them wrong?
I usually say something to the tune of "everyone has something to hide, that's why we put clothes on; that's why we don't go around broadcasting our medical test results; that's why we don't reveal our salaries and benefits to our colleagues (or anyone); that's why we don't give our address to anyone that asks for it. It doesn't mean we've done something bad or we're criminals, it just means we're human. But if you h…