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Despite High Hopes, Self-Driving Cars Are ‘Way in the Future’
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#32Self-driving tech muggle here. Could someone explain to me why any average Joe with minimal intellect can drive a car using only a pair of eyes but it's difficult to build a fully self-driving car even with 8+ cameras, GPS, LIDAR and other sensors us humans don't have?
Because driving a car is essentially analogous to full artificial intelligence. We don't know how to do that. Like at all.
hmm. i have to disagree. driving a car is a walk in the park compared to AGI. they’re not even in the same ballpark. for driving we at least have an idea how to make it happen and we need better tech, more training data and maybe alter the infrastructure to solve some edge cases. AGI? we’re guessing at this point (at least what’s public)
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#33> It’s much more difficult to prepare self-driving cars for unusual circumstances — pedestrians crossing the road when cars have the green light, cars making illegal turns. Researchers call these “corner cases,” although in city traffic they occur often.
These are difficult to deal with as human drivers too. This article is pretty light on details and basically pins the lack of progress on a couple of Tesla crashes. The thing is, regular people crash cars every day. I'd much rather share the road with self-driving cars than cars driven by humans. Especially with the advent of smart phones, not a day goes by that I don't see multiple people heads down messing with Instagram while driving.
This technology is a lot closer to reality than the article makes it seems I think.
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#34On highway is where it's at. City corner cases are going to be Impossible for a long time, but caravans of self driving trucks could easily happen in the next couple years. It already happens with a person in the front vehicle that is followed closesly in a train by robotic vehicles.
GM is already selling "Super Cruise" vehicles with level 4 autonomous capability on a limited set of controlled access highways.
https://www.cadillac.com/world-of-cadillac/innovation/super-...
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#35So, the singularity isn't imminent?
if and when are 2 separate questions. i’m giving the singularity anywhere between 500-2000 years to happen if we manage to stay alive as a species
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#36We don't need self-driving cars that can go anywhere (ie. level 5) for them to be widely useful. A car that only worked in bright sunshine on a preprogrammed set of roads would be immediately useful to me.
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#37Given that people feel confident falling asleep in their Teslas while it drives, I think the writer should just lower their standards.
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#38Even if it will be technically possible, and I'm pretty sure some day that will be solved. That's the easiest part. The biggest hurdle for self-driving cars will be ethics, such as 'the car brakes for a child suddenly crossing the street but then kills the old woman' or perhaps even make decisions based upon social status. Lots of options here. Those ethics have to be agreed upon, and they will likely differ per cult…
I believe that this scenario is very over-blown. If you're in a situation where you have to choose between swerving into another car or hitting a child that darts out onto the street then the question really is: why were you in that situation in the first place? At 20mph pedestrian collisions are almost invariably non-fatal and emergency stops are almost instantaneous. So if you're on a street where a child can appear instantly, why are you going faster than 20mph in the first place?
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#39Even if it will be technically possible, and I'm pretty sure some day that will be solved. That's the easiest part. The biggest hurdle for self-driving cars will be ethics, such as 'the car brakes for a child suddenly crossing the street but then kills the old woman' or perhaps even make decisions based upon social status. Lots of options here. Those ethics have to be agreed upon, and they will likely differ per cult…
We don’t currently have those ethics codified now and it doesn’t seem like too big a problem. I think very few situations actually arise where someone has the time to decide between killing two different individuals.
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#40It seems like the easy answer is to kick human drivers off the road, right? That will eliminate a great deal of the unpredictability. Start with a small section of a city, and if the results are good, people will want to expand it.
Also bicyclists, and also human pedestrians -- they decide to cross roads at the craziest times. A city without humans is what we need.