Portugal’s radical drugs policy is working (2017)

Post by zkomp » Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 11:31 AM UTC

microcolonel wrote: post #226

zkomp wrote: post #215

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The war on drugs is and has always been racist, it is targeting minorities and filling prisons. How it is precieved is a different thing.

> The war on drugs is and has always been racist, it is targeting minorities and filling prisons. How it is precieved is a different thing. You're missing the point: do today's voters tend to think of it that way? In my opinion, no, they do not. So if you go around arguing that the war on drugs is racist, or exclusively for the benefit of prisons, a lot of people know it isn't racist for them , and that they don't ag…

I agree but it is how it always been. The war on drugs is called "war on drugs" not institutionalized rasism with a fancy spin to make people accept it...

Post by 4ntonius8lock » Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 5:53 PM UTC

microcolonel wrote: post #242

4ntonius8lock wrote: post #234

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I'm really not sure what your point it is. You seem to be saying 'don't say the drug war is discriminatory', even though it is. You then present logic that seems very unsound (as highlighted by the kippah example) But to answer you: > ordinary people are the voters who decide elections Which is why it is so important that the war on drugs is painted for what it is. Voters today might not grasp it. But those voters wi…

I can't make you read what I had to say, but I think you are being very inflexible and I hope you'll go back and try. If one isn't willing to read any argument from start to finish before comparing people to "flat earthers" and thinking that only "old people who are about to die" disagree with him, one will fail to convince anyone, young or old. Many ordinary people are OK with the war on drugs because they believe t…

I'm happy you are arguing for drug law reform in the way you do.

I was just explaining a different way of arguing in favor of it. My way and the way of many people.

You do you. My post was very specific: 'some people see it this way'

P.S. I never said 'old people who are about to die'. I said a generation will die off (it could be mine), and new ones will come in. I was implying a long term view of things (as in, look at the difference in attitudes over 50 or even 100 years)

And I never compared you to a flat earth-er. I compared people who support the current drug legislation to flat earthers. Because both of them have mountains of evidence that point to the fact that they should change their perspective, yet don't do so in the face of such evidence.

How you argue in favor of reform is on you. How we do reform is open to debate. That we need it is a fact like the world is round. That I don't agree with arguing in the way you do does not mean I don't understand your perspective (appealing to people's self interest vs sense of right)

I respect it. My only intention was providing you with a different perspective.

Re: Portugal’s radical drugs policy is working (2017)

Re: Portugal’s radical drugs policy is working (2017)