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Apple Plans to Bankroll Original Podcasts to Fend Off Rivals

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Re: Apple Plans to Bankroll Original Podcasts to Fend Off Rivals

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I really wish they'd compete by just making the Podcasts app not a pile of shit. It routinely doesn't sync where I am between devices and never works correctly on my HomePod. Adding old episodes on one device won't add it anywhere else. The Apple TV version simply doesn't have the ability to add episodes to your library. The less said about iTunes' podcast functionality the better. I know they're porting the iOS Podc…

Those problems STILL exist? That’s what drove me to Overcast many years ago.

Re: Apple Plans to Bankroll Original Podcasts to Fend Off Rivals

#52
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although I personally don’t like Overcast because of the ad injection (which I consider immoral) and the hypocrisy of its author being anti-ads in general (not to mention having built Tumblr, which turned out to be a porn obfuscation service), I agree that this is a bad move by Apple. Doesn’t matter: podcasts are going to go the way of TV, radio, and movies anyway.

Did you purchase the $10 in app option to turn ads off?

Do you purchase subscriptions to news websites, or do you follow the archive.is links on HN?

Of course I didn't purchase Overcast. There are better free alternatives.

Re: Apple Plans to Bankroll Original Podcasts to Fend Off Rivals

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although I personally don’t like Overcast because of the ad injection (which I consider immoral) and the hypocrisy of its author being anti-ads in general (not to mention having built Tumblr, which turned out to be a porn obfuscation service), I agree that this is a bad move by Apple. Doesn’t matter: podcasts are going to go the way of TV, radio, and movies anyway.

What is a "porn obfuscation service"?

https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/20/18104366/tumblr-ios-app-...

Re: Apple Plans to Bankroll Original Podcasts to Fend Off Rivals

#54
I don't like where media streaming is headed. This is what everyone is doing:

1. Create a distribution platform. Users pay $14 a month to stream all content. Everyone is happy.

2. Once successful, start creating exclusive content.

3. Content creators on your platform start their own platforms and take content off of yours.

4. Now users are paying $14 for 6 different distribution/content platforms. Might as well just call them "channels". This is no better than cable.

Re: Apple Plans to Bankroll Original Podcasts to Fend Off Rivals

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That's so unnecessary. If Apple wants to fend off rivals, then just stop treating podcasts as second class citizens and built tools for creators, including detailed analytics. I'm not talking about the type of analytics that Google would built (one that reports that you were sitting on john while listening to this part), but one with anonymized usage data that helps creators producing new content and generate revenue…

What part of Google analytics do you think are different from what you described?

I meant that Google would try to extract any and every information from a user, while Apple can easily just provide the most important information.

Admittedly, I was trying to be a bit funny. Didn't work out obviously.

Re: Apple Plans to Bankroll Original Podcasts to Fend Off Rivals

#56
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you purchase the $10 in app option to turn ads off?

Do you purchase subscriptions to news websites, or do you follow the archive.is links on HN? Of course I didn't purchase Overcast. There are better free alternatives.

Yes, I do purchase subscriptions to news web sites occasionally, because I don't consider writers being paid to be intrinsically immoral. Given the choice to pay them with ads and pay them directly, I'll take the latter. I suppose "rely on other people seeing ads and/or paying for content to subsidize me" is also an option.

Re: Apple Plans to Bankroll Original Podcasts to Fend Off Rivals

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This is very unfortunate. Apple being totally hands off, other than running the iTunes podcast directory, is one of the best things that’s ever happened for podcasts. I like my 3rd party app (Overcast). I don’t want to have to use 3 podcast apps to listen to all my podcasts. I think I agree with some of the podcast app developers: if it’s not available in any app it shouldn’t be called a ‘podcast’.

Although I personally don’t like Overcast because of the ad injection (which I consider immoral) and the hypocrisy of its author being anti-ads in general (not to mention having built Tumblr, which turned out to be a porn obfuscation service), I agree that this is a bad move by Apple. Doesn’t matter: podcasts are going to go the way of TV, radio, and movies anyway.

I've been using Overcast, and have noticed that with certain podcasts, the audio ad-breaks seem to come in the middle of sentences, and there's no segue from podcast content to ad-read. Is that what you're referring to by "ad injection"? Or is just that the creator sucks at editing?

Re: Apple Plans to Bankroll Original Podcasts to Fend Off Rivals

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Yes, and Anchor. Podcasts are on the way out, just like the open Web. It's unfortunate that we refuse to learn from history.

Is there any reason we can't just rip podcasts from these, post them in RSS feeds and have the non-owned apps list them for free - thus making them far superior by giving them access to all content?

Other than potential legal issues, I don't see any significant barriers to what you are proposing.

Re: Apple Plans to Bankroll Original Podcasts to Fend Off Rivals

#59
post #54

I don't like where media streaming is headed. This is what everyone is doing: 1. Create a distribution platform. Users pay $14 a month to stream all content. Everyone is happy. 2. Once successful, start creating exclusive content. 3. Content creators on your platform start their own platforms and take content off of yours. 4. Now users are paying $14 for 6 different distribution/content platforms. Might as well just…

I would not be surprised if step 5. is a platform that is essentially an aggregation of different platforms which pays out royalties/fees to each of the individual services and thus completes the digital recreation of cable TV.

Re: Apple Plans to Bankroll Original Podcasts to Fend Off Rivals

#60
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What part of Google analytics do you think are different from what you described?

I meant that Google would try to extract any and every information from a user, while Apple can easily just provide the most important information. Admittedly, I was trying to be a bit funny. Didn't work out obviously.

No, I got it. People who get the joke don’t leave a comment. They just exhale out their nose.
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