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Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

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Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

#32
As someone living on the other side of the Great Firewall of China it's become VERY clear that a government can effectively censor the internet(without VPN to get out it's terrible), provided that the government in question put enough effort into it.

As I said in another comment, the Chinese government has beaten Tor. You can't download it or even read about it(almost everything Tor related is blocked). Even when you have it you can't connect, as all bridge IPs are blocked the moment the gov discovers them.

It's slow as hell to boot and on top of this the Chinese government is still able to monitor those who can connect with traffic analysis(a Tor weakness).

I'm something of a lazy cipherpunk and had hoped that most services and sites would have moved onto darknets like i2p by now. But sadly this is not the case, however it is the place where we finally need to go.

TLDR: I don't use Tor because it don't work, plain and simple. Never mind the insecurity mentioned by Zed, and no one here is talking about this.

Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

#33
post #29

(I rather suspect that Mr Shaw is trolling, but anyway.) It's certainly true that humans have all manner of interesting behaviors owing to the fact that we're smart apes with huge numbers of survival heuristics. I would pause before taking a sandwich from Hitler, because I'm human, but it's not pertinent to the question of whether the sandwich is any good. (Except in as far as you think it more or less likely that th…

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Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

#34
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find funny that I was re-reading a novel this morning during the commute, about a WWII cryptographer and arrived at the point were he sees that the warning in every secret document was "never take any action that could reveal the enemy that we can break their encryption".

I don't suppose MILINT has gotten any less competent in the last 60-odd years, but not disclosing that Tor is compromised would seriously hamper using it as a source for law enforcement, hence my thinking it would be more likely to be NSA. If so, I doubt we'd ever know, short of somebody leaking it.

If there was an organized effort to bust people using Tor then a pattern would emerge. In so much if they were high-profile targets (political dissidents, whistleblowers, spies, etc.). If they were cp collectors I don't think anyone would care enough to do an investigation.

Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

#35
Huh? Where's the conflict between Wikileaks and Tor? Wikileaks publishes goverment's secrets. Goverments sniff(presumably) citizens' communications, both content and session data. Tor helps citizens to leak those secrets hiding their session data.

Where is the conflict?

Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

#37
Even if the meandering list of risks Zed documents are serious and cannot be mitigated, Tor still is useful for all kinds of situations.

This article isn't that useful without knowing the nature of what Zed doesn't use Tor for.

Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

#38
Remember that Zed Shaw was "a top qualified soldier in the US Army". Maybe Zed is a bad actor in the pay of the US Army and this article is an attempt to discredit Tor for their benefit! ;)

Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

#39
post #35

Huh? Where's the conflict between Wikileaks and Tor? Wikileaks publishes goverment's secrets. Goverments sniff(presumably) citizens' communications, both content and session data. Tor helps citizens to leak those secrets hiding their session data. Where is the conflict?

Didnt get that either...

Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

#40
Haha, oh, Zed. Pretty sure the military STILL uses Tor. Oh no! What could the Navy or army have use for a tool that protects them from surveillance?! Oh right, everything...

It was all fun and games when Zed was talking shit about Ruby but he's jumped the shark. It was bad enough when he freaked out because someone was converting his books code to Ruby from Python. Free code but not free book?

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