Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

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Post by nathanmarz » Tue, Dec 28, 2010, 10:21 AM UTC

Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor
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Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

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Post by alanh » Tue, Dec 28, 2010, 10:52 AM UTC

“@zedshaw If you don't trust Tor because of me, you clearly do not understand how Tor works. You can BadExit my nodes buddy.”

Appelbaum, https://twitter.com/#!/ioerror/status/19703396818747392

Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

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Post by zedshaw » Tue, Dec 28, 2010, 10:59 AM UTC

alanh wrote: post #2

“@zedshaw If you don't trust Tor because of me, you clearly do not understand how Tor works. You can BadExit my nodes buddy.” Appelbaum, https://twitter.com/#!/ioerror/status/19703396818747392

I was curious about this, so I started googling for how to do this. Sure enough, it's a bitch and the only way to really do it easily is to use a GUI like Tork. Not to mention I can't seem to figure out how you find his nodes in order to BadExit them, and I very seriously doubt his nodes will get listed in anything official.

Anyone got good instructions on how to actually BadExit his nodes? I want to post them so people actually can.

Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

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Post by wazoox » Tue, Dec 28, 2010, 11:01 AM UTC

> P.S. I have a long bet that SELinux is an NSA backdoor. Any takers?

I don't know if it's an NSA backdoor, but there were several security alerts related to SELinux. I don't understand why all common distros use this. I don't, I compile my kernels from unpatched vanilla source.

Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

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Post by dfhjtyjty » Tue, Dec 28, 2010, 11:02 AM UTC

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Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

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Post by praptak » Tue, Dec 28, 2010, 11:03 AM UTC

alanh wrote: post #2

“@zedshaw If you don't trust Tor because of me, you clearly do not understand how Tor works. You can BadExit my nodes buddy.” Appelbaum, https://twitter.com/#!/ioerror/status/19703396818747392

If Appelbaum actually works on Tor then just BadExit'ing his nodes is obviously not enough. Even a clean compile (for the paranoid: do you trust your compiler?) from a fully audited (do you have the resources?) source code is not enough. In order to use Tor you gotta trust the other nodes, including the code that runs there.

Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Dec 28, 2010, 11:05 AM UTC

praptak wrote: post #6

alanh wrote: post #2

“@zedshaw If you don't trust Tor because of me, you clearly do not understand how Tor works. You can BadExit my nodes buddy.” Appelbaum, https://twitter.com/#!/ioerror/status/19703396818747392

If Appelbaum actually works on Tor then just BadExit'ing his nodes is obviously not enough. Even a clean compile (for the paranoid: do you trust your compiler?) from a fully audited (do you have the resources?) source code is not enough. In order to use Tor you gotta trust the other nodes, including the code that runs there.

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Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

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Post by tonfa » Tue, Dec 28, 2010, 11:08 AM UTC

Wikileaks is supposed to ensure anonymity to leakers, so I don't see how contributing to both projects is contradictory...

Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

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Post by jasonwatkinspdx » Tue, Dec 28, 2010, 11:24 AM UTC

It's somewhat informative to compare Zed's response to personal criticisms vs those he targets with his own criticisms. Follow the chain of twitter replies and make up your own mind.

Re: Zed Shaw: Why I Don't Use Tor

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Post by axod » Tue, Dec 28, 2010, 11:33 AM UTC

jasonwatkinspdx wrote: post #9

It's somewhat informative to compare Zed's response to personal criticisms vs those he targets with his own criticisms. Follow the chain of twitter replies and make up your own mind.

So much name calling and playground idiocy. Just looking at a sample of the tweets made my head hurt.

Surely most of us don't use Tor because

  1. It's slow as hell
  2. We're not doing anything illegal or trying to get past
     censorship